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Date Posted:10/25/2018 10:32 PMCopy HTML

I am 2nd wave according to Wikipedia 

3rd wave has no meaning for me, either.


I was feminist until they started hating men.  I like men.  Some of my favorite people are men.  Most of the women in my life have been bitches, truly people to be avoided.  Maybe I just bring out the worst in them......anyway to understand what 3rdwave feminists connotes:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlxji_6VN8


1st wave:  right to vote


2nd wave:  right to decide what happens in her body....abortion.


3rd wave:  still processing 

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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:10/26/2018 12:52 AMCopy HTML

Rebecca Walker in 2003. The term third wave is credited to Walker's 1992 article, "Becoming the Third Wave".[1] Third-wave feminism is an iteration of the feminist movement that began in the early 1990s United States[2] and continued until the fourth wave began around 2012.[3][4] Born in the 1960s and 1970s as members of Generation X, and grounded in the civil-rights advances of the second wave, third-wave feminists embraced individualism and diversity and sought to redefine what it meant to be a feminist.[5][6][7] According to feminist scholar Elizabeth Evans, the "confusion surrounding what constitutes third-wave feminism is in some respects its defining feature."[8] OMG.....there’s a fourth wave....
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

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Feminist scholars such as Shira Tarrant objected to the "wave construct" because it ignored important progress between the periods. Furthermore, if feminism is a global movement, she argued, the fact that the "first-, second-, and third waves time periods correspond most closely to American feminist developments" raises serious problems about how feminism fails to recognize the history of political issues around the world.[54] The "wave construct" also focused on white women's suffrage and continued to marginalize the issues of women of color and lower-class women.[50] I object to the wave construct though I am partial to individualism if that’s what the third wave breaking away from 2nd wave is. Anita Hill represents 3rd wave....she proved the comfortable 2nd wave still had a lot of work to do. Grrrr is too extreme....the things people do to get attention, make money.
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

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Fourth wave feminism considers the failings of third wave, the wave construct: https://youtu.be/o3KAdZCa0wQ All a bunch of malarky, waste of time and money and attention. The confusing array of issues under the feminist umbrella aren’t feminist so much as they are human issues having little if anything to do with gender.
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

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4th wave beginning around 2012...that would be the bat-shit-crazy wave, I guess. 

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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:10/27/2018 6:01 AMCopy HTML

Actually, the 4th wave is a reaction to the crazies of 3rd wave. For every action there’s a....... Thanks for your comment, govols! Feels like I am talking to myself here, sometimes. Of course, I am good at that, too.
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:10/27/2018 6:07 AMCopy HTML

Sorry about the links. They don’t work and I don’t know how to make them work. I put the key in the ignition. If the engine starts, I go. If it doesn’t, I get out of the car........and so it is with links. Most of them work, but when they don’t....
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

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Fourth wave is the rape culture movement, I think. Social media outrage equating catcalls with actual physical assault and rape. "Work spouse" spats turning into harrasment charges. MeToo. It ain't about equal rights any more, but nailing down what it IS about is difficult.

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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:10/28/2018 7:00 PMCopy HTML

It appears to be about the acquisition of power without reason or responsibility.

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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

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Well, let’s see, no matter what wave we’re talking about, Freewriting in my class started with a sentence prompt like “He was courageous.” One day, I changed it to “She was courageous.” After 10 minutes, I called in the papers. Two women in the front row had blank pages. Neither of them could think of a courageous woman story to tell, asked if they could change it to he and turn it in later. One or two guys had no problem but as a whole the class was stymied. That was the early 90’s. I thought women’s lib had taken care of it, but apparently the movement was not as successful as I thought. My generation didn’t trust anyone over 30......until we turned 30....and I should not have trusted the man who denied me education benefits for my military service. Years later, after my husband served on recruiting duty and we were attending college because his request had been approved, he encouraged me to apply for my benefit s again. Not only did they begin paying them, but they sent a lump sum check for the three years I had been denied. Just because we say it’s so doesn’t make it so. Personal experience isn’t persuasive, but it’s what I am willing to share. Well, sometimes I google stuff, but I don’t head to the basement where all my precious books and college essays are because I vaguely remember why and where I came by my opinions. I did that in the middle of debates with my husband because he was so wickedly persuasive that I needed back up....so funny, now.
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:10/28/2018 9:15 PMCopy HTML

....................Two women in the front row had blank pages.  Neither of them could think of a courageous woman story to tell, asked if they could change it to he and turn it in later.  One or two guys had no problem but as a whole the class was stymied.  ........


Hard to believe that someone could be quite that clueless.

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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:10/30/2018 1:16 AMCopy HTML

It was a shocker. They were college freshmen, but I probably would have been surprised at elementary students without a courageous women to talk about. The percentage of women in elected office, in corporate office has increased, but is still low. The whining about inequality is believed, so they don’t even try. Those are just fragments of what is wrong. When women ran the farm while husbands hunted or went to war, where was the courage in raising 7 or 8 children without him? It’s expected, nothing special. Women as Nurses in the Civil War were all right, but women were court martialed for trying to fight as soldiers. Movie scripts written by women while men went off to war had admirable, heroic women, but when those writing jobs went back to men after the war, women like that almost completely disappeared. Well, there was Emma Peal from the Avengers, I can’t look at Diana Rigg in Game of Thrones without thinking of Mrs. Peal. Several actresses have tried Presidential, but none have quite pulled it off. Madame Secretary works, even though I think of Hillary Clinton more often than I’d like during a show. Women stand behind good men. When she’s in front, a devoted man or two have to stand beside her. Where’s the courageous in that? It sounds silly to me, but in more than a few conversations women have said how courageous they think I am for being a solo traveler. Poor things, they have no idea how much easier it is to go where you want, when you want and if you want. Safety is always an issue, and always first, but locking myself in a cage the way some of them do.......no. Funny too, is the idea that a man will keep you safe, well, he’ll try, but they don’t give safety any thought, so....... LOL
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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

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Setting aside any "why" to the following, is it possible that (enough) men are (almost) always thinking of safety that the program is just routine? Is it possible that men more often evaluate the world and the choices it presents as risk/reward evaluations and women more often along the lines of threat/security? There’s a big difference between “safe from” and “safe to,” and “safety” considerations vary by perspective.


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Re:3rd Wave Feminism

Date Posted:11/06/2018 3:09 AMCopy HTML

Little girls learn they are smarter than little boys in elementary school. As they grow into women they learn to keep it quiet, as men attain their adult heights and flex their muscles. Three women brought down Confuscious’ perfect Prince. It wasn’t their idea, so that’s a bad example. Beauty is an unfair advantage, ugly couldn’t have done it. Poor Confuscious went to his grave thinking himself a failure. Eleanor Roosevelt, our first female President.... Catherine the Great of Russia ..... Eleanor of Aquitaine ..... Elizabeth I of England The storyteller in 1001 nights...... Yes, men are also as you say prone to routine evaluations, and that’s probably more precise. However, men confessed in audience after audience that they didn’t give it any thought while women in the audiences came up with a list of things they do to avoid an assault. Men are the victims of assault more often than women. Still, a man who prevents her from slipping or saves her from danger in any way is duly noted.....it’s unfortunate that isn’t a perfect test....after they’re married he’ll slam a door on her leg not realizing she isn’t quite seated in the car. And it’s her fault for making him late.
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