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So, the democrats tried throughout the last election to convince the votes that republicans are waging a 'war on women'... whatever that might be.  Apparently because republicans tend to loathe abortion (something that kills an awful lot of future women), those mean ol' republicans must be waging war on women.  I'm not sure of the logic behind that but there it is.

Meanwhile, across the pond there is a real 'war' on women and they're having a sale.  If you want a woman of your own, islam has some pretty reasonable prices: 

In response, the group determined specific prices for women and children, while “vowing to execute whoever violates those controls.” This is the worth of a human life, according to ISIS: 

  • A woman, 40 to 50-years-old: 50,000 dinars. ($42.90)
  • A woman, 30 to 40-years-old: 75,000 dinars. ($64.35)
  • A woman, 20 to 30-years-old: 100,000 dinars. ($85.80)
  • A girl, 10 to 20-years-old: 150,000 dinars. ($128.70)
  • A child, 1 to 9-years-old: 200,000 dinars. ($171.60) 

New York PostDaily MailRTInternational Business TimesOpposing Views and Christianity Today are among the few outlets to report on the story. 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/katie-yoder/2014/11/07/isis-sets-prices-female-slaves-media-whine-about-us-war-women-0

I'm not actually a conservative but I find it noteworthy that the rags that have chosen to air this atrocity are mainly conservative rags.

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Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Maybe Hollywood can relocate!
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Facebook member posted a picture of the Kavanaugh panel alongside the panel in the movie Handmaids Tale which said quite a bit to women. I’ve mentioned the book in earlier posts, and I guess the ease with which women were suppressed over there is more important than the subtle ways they are suppressed here since we have laws against it and their laws support it. However, laws are changeable to suit the current tyrant. Iran’s women are losing with each passing decade the memory of freedom. When raised their way what can we expect? Time, which side does it seem to favor? Declaring war on women would at least make them aware, but that’s not how it’s done.
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There was never a 'war on women' in the western world, Nickel but the handmaid's tale resembles islam pretty dang closely.


Tara Fares death: Iraqi model and Instagram star shot dead ...

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There was never a 'war on women' in the western world, Nickel but the handmaid's tale resembles islam pretty dang closely.


Tara Fares death: Iraqi model and Instagram star shot dead ...


Republicans Are Waging War on Women—and Two Women Can Stop Them

Senators Collins and Murkowski, we need you now. Your party doesn’t seem to care about us. Do you?

Alyssa Milano
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There is an epidemic of violence against women in this country. Yet there is not one single GOP co-sponsor of the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2018.

In the past 18 months alone, Republicans have pursued or enacted proposal after proposal to take away healthcare for womenmake healthcare more expensive for women, make it harder for poor and uninsured women to access reproductive healthcare, all while rolling back regulations for tackling sexual assault on college campuses. And right now, at this second, there’s a battle being waged in Washington, where on one side there are people who think it’s worth knowing the full sexual assault history of a potential lifetime appointee to the United States Supreme Court. And on the other side, there is the Republican Party. 

The Republican response to the alarming sexual assault allegationsagainst Brett Kavanaugh, made by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, has been more of the same. Republican Senate Judiciary Spokesman Taylor Foy issued a statement lauding Kavanaugh’s integrity. Senator Lindsey Graham voiced concern over the “substance and process” of Ford’s allegations. Only one Republican member of the Judiciary Committee has given any signal that the confirmation should be delayed—and he’s retiring from the Senate following the elections. 

"This war has victims, and they are piling up at an alarming rate."

Where are the Republican women of the Senate on Kavanaugh? Where is Senator Susan Collins of Maine? Where is Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska? In the past, they have been two voices of reason in an increasingly unreasonable party—each favor abortion rights and affordable healthcare access. Their failure to immediately call for a postponement of the Kavanaugh vote is striking. Are they capitulating to their party’s escalation of the war on women? This war has victims, and they are piling up at an alarming rate. 

When Mollie Tibbetts was killed, Republican leaders in the House were quick to share posts using the tragedy to promote anti-immigration policies. Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Majority Whip Steve Scalise both sent tweets using her murder to focus on immigration. The official White House Twitter account posted about Mollie’s death to promote anti-immigrant policy and even made a glib comparison to its despicable family separation policy. Of course, none of them cared that Mollie herself had an evolved view of immigration, was critical of the President’s hypocrisy on the issue, and expressed progressive views on her own Twitter account.

Mollie Tibbetts was killed by a man—a man who saw her and preyed upon her. In the past several weeks, we’ve seen this story over and over: women stalked, attacked, and too often killed by men. Shannan Wattsand her children in Colorado. Gabrielle Bessix in Baton Rouge—who had been granted a restraining order against her killer in the days before she was killed. Petra Maribel Bolaños De Casarez was gunned down by her ex-husband in Bakersfield. Nia Wilson was stabbed to death. Belinda Kramer was shot in Oregon, and thankfully, ultimately survived. Women are dramatically more likely to be victims of sexual violence and stalking than men.

It’s no secret that this President is the enemy of women. And it is women who will bear the brunt of his Supreme Court nomination.

"We’ve seen this story over and over: women stalked, attacked, and too often killed by men."

Not only did Trump state the he would apply a litmus test and nominate only those who would overturn Roe v. Wade to the Supreme Court, he sourced his list of potential judges from the Federalist Society, and the Heritage Foundation. These right-wing extremist organizations both have a long history of anti-women policies and proposals. 

This has taken place in a Congress where Democrats rightfully face consequences for abusive behaviors toward women. Senator Al Franken resigned his seat when allegations were brought forward. So did Representative John Conyers, following loud and public calls from both parties for them to resign. Republicans have been substantially quieter when it comes to their own party. Blake Farenthold brazenly stayed in Congress for months following allegations of sexual misconduct and the revelation that he had used tens of thousands of dollars in public funds used to settle claims against him—and his party was tepid at best in their rejection of him. He’s now a lobbyist. Of course, a party that gets behind a President with multiple accusers seems to have no problem at all with this behavior.

To Republican leaders, this anti-women agenda is a feature, not a bug. It is part of their larger strategy to expand its war on women in the Trump era.

The thing is, it is women who can stop it. Senators Collins and Murkowski, we need you. We need you now. Your party doesn’t seem to care about us. Do you?


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It’s the title that I found amusing because of this thread. I don’t believe Republicans have launched any such war. Bad things happen. In general, women try my patience, so men dealing with them probably lose it. Still, case by case, following the law addresses it and if she doesn’t stand up in a timely manner....... It’s pretty scary what a woman can do to an innocent man’s life. Still, we have to keep sorting it out.
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I agree.


To sort it out, however, requires accurately assessing the problem... including ascertaining whether or not there really is a problem and if there is, would attempts to impose a solution make things better or worse?


Typically, government imposed solutions make problems worse and generate new problems.

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Oddly enough, I agree. Apparently, it doesn’t go without saying that isolated incidents are just that and should be dealt with accordingly. Systemic issues require something more. Not government action, necessarily, but a creative solution nonetheless. Awareness on a grand scale can dramatically shift perspectives. I did not teach my daughter to cook, clean, knit, sew, or any other housewife type skills because of women’s lib. Once she became a wife and mother of three, she accused me of not preparing her. My reply in a heart beat was, You’re a college educated woman, anyone with a cookbook can cook. Now, I would tell her to Google it. Seriously, at her high school graduation out of the blue she said not to look to her for any grandchildren because she was never getting married. At her college graduation, again out of the blue, she said, I’m never having children, Mom. I would never bring a child into this world. Three years later she meets the love of her life.......that’s how love changes the world. She’s the best Mom ever. I would not like to have been my child, but I wouldn’t mind being hers.
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I did not teach my daughter to cook, clean, knit, sew, or any other housewife type skills because of women’s lib.

That was a mistake many people made.


Once she became a wife and mother of three, she accused me of not preparing her.  My reply in a heart beat was, You’re a college educated woman, anyone with a cookbook can cook.

Not anyone can cook well.


I, too, was raised with things like, 'kids are a burden' or expensive or college and career are more important than everything... bullshit like that.  That attitude, I think, was one of the greatest crimes committed against the generations that have come after the boomers.

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   I would not like to have been my child, but I wouldn’t mind being hers.



If you live long enough--and if you're lucky--you will be. We all come in and go out the same way, if we live long enough--helpless. 


I guess the cared for parent isn't as common today as it once was, though, so maybe not.



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People talk about being sandwiched between children and parents as a burden. I asked my Mom to live with us and was hurt when she turned us down. Now, I understand it. I lived with my daughter for a year taking care of her two sons so that they could pay off their debts and she could stay home and raise them herself. That actually worked, despite all the cautionary tales, and I came home.......thank goodness! They have different hours, different temperatures, different music, movies, food preferences, all manner of discomfort that had to be accommodated because it was their home. My son in law is upset that after my husband died I didn’t go live with them, but I think my daughter understands. For the year that I lived alone in their Virginia house watching their dog while they were in Taiwan, I became more me, instead of Mom, or Grandma. I can be accommodating for a well defined period of time, but I prefer living alone, traveling alone, not having to negotiate times and places, what to see and what to do, and I especially enjoy not having my choices evaluated. Son1 lives with me, but his mantra is, Whatever Mom Wants. Manipulative people have been around all my life. This is my solution and path of least resistance for those I love. My status report on Facebook works great!
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Our Constitution’s freedom of speech, should keep us from placating Islam. Our courts, however, have given “fighting words” a platform from which Muslims might win over free speech. What makes other nations responsible for her? Why can’t the rest of the world condemn Pakistan and that be enough? Is the World Court able to prosecute Pakistan for its religious thugs and murderers? Geez, it’s been ten years......and Europe is cowering before them. Apparently, a few strategic strikes, and whole nations are swayed. It’s a generally accepted parenting rule that we don’t talk about politics or religion, and it’s not politically correct to slam any faith, but it’s not against the law. How protected is our speech? Well, legal is different from social and social can get you before the police arrive, as apparently, determined Muslims can.
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Our Constitution’s freedom of speech, should keep us from placating Islam.

The 1st amendment is under assault from the postmodern neomarxists already and is all but non-existant on many college campus's across the nation.  Antifa, a bunch of limp wristed wannabe's, shut down speaker after speaker and have taken control of the downtowns of Portland and Seattle.  That's just a bunch of panzies packing up and looking scary.


In the EU, islam has bombed media offices, trains and mows people down with trucks.  Granted, the people of the EU are mostly disarmed and they don't have freedom of speech codified into their laws.  May be islamisists have a tougher road to hoe here but their mode of attack seems to be modeled after organized crime.


Our courts, however, have given “fighting words” a platform from which Muslims might win over free speech.

In addition to the organized crime model, they also seem to have read their alinski and use their target nations legal system as a weapon.


What makes other nations responsible for her?

We have let into our nation 10's of thousands of alleged refugee's... the bulk of whom are fighting age males.  But we're going to turn our backs upon a woman?  Why is that?


Because apparently we are shitting our collective pants at the possiblity of offending muslims.


Why can’t the rest of the world condemn Pakistan and that be enough?

Because apparently we are not the only ones who are shitting our collective pants at the possiblity of offending muslims?


Is the World Court able to prosecute Pakistan for its religious thugs and murderers?

I wouldn't think so.  And I wouldn't like very much to accept that a 'world court' has any jurisdiciton over anyone.


Geez, it’s been ten years......and Europe is cowering before them.  Apparently, a few strategic strikes, and whole nations are swayed.

Yup.  The people of the EU nations are pretty much helpless.  Except the Swiss.  Don't see any islamic attacks in Switzerland, do we?


It’s a generally accepted parenting rule that we don’t talk about politics or religion, and it’s not politically correct to slam any faith, but it’s not against the law. How protected is our speech?  Well, legal is different from social and social can get you before the police arrive, as apparently, determined Muslims can.


When islam gains enough followers in one place, they take over just like mafia.  Cross them and you're in for a heap of trouble.



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“We have let into our nation 10's of thousands of alleged refugee's... the bulk of whom are fighting age males. But we're going to turn our backs upon a woman? Why is that?“ ~ alaskaone Because we let into our country fighting age males, our volunteers not perhaps enough to meet security needs, who may provide fight and intel, we should let in a troublemaker woman with jihadi baggage? Are you certain any of these people are not plants, programmed to grow radical Islam in our apostate country. Trojan horses come in all sizes, shapes and genders..... Nonetheless, I prefer your take on the situation, and taking her in is an heroic message to send the world of nations cowering before Islam. We should not delay.....special forces extraction? I watch too much Action and Adventure.......Strike Back was pretty good!
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The woman in question is a catholic, arrested for insulting islam and sentenced to death.  Her conviction was overturned by the paki courts however, if reports are to believed, she's in danger of being lynched wherever she goes.
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So, a whole new identity is needed for her to survive. We can do that. Much better than the parade and welcome to America. What’s a Pope to do? Point out the religious tolerance of Islam? Religion is so divisive and useful across borders.
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Someone posted 9 out 10 were Muslim.  I was focusing mainly on how once upon a time women were not treated so badly in these countries.  So the question is how did it happen?  


I can’t fathom the women who support Sharia except maybe they are pandering to the powers that be.

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Once upon what time were women not treated so badly in the middle east?  The koran is pretty clear about how women should be treated and the koran is the literal word of god and perfect. 


Anyway, lately there have been stirrings of self-awareness among the sjw's and radical feminists concerning the pass they give islam and its treatment of women, homosexuals and lesbians.


That's a good thing.

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Women were treated well and valued highly by pagans: Before Peter conveniently disregarded Christ’s love and regard for Mary Magdalene and the influence of Buddha in Christ’s later teaching. Before the conquest and appropriation of Middle Eastern cultures by Islam. Women are still treated well and valued highly by cultures strongly influenced by Buddhism.
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Recently joined Pre History on Facebook, a fairly slow moving group with quite a few members. An innocuous request to neutralize language choices so that roughly half the population isn’t left out, following the science community’s lead and the RESPECT movement. Any posts that gave credit to only men when it was unclear would be deleted. Well, the group exploded with comments for and against, 375 in the first few hours...a day later she deleted the thread and more carefully worded her request which also caused an explosion of comments. The following day she reported that people had called her a series of vulgar names in messenger and emails, as well as on her Facebook profile that she had reported and blocked and deleted from the group and other locations. Then she asserted the policy again, and asked people who couldn’t live with it to leave the group of their own volition, join another group more in line with their thinking. I know people like that exist, but it was still amazing that so many responded as they did to her request. The valiant way she took so many of them on who were not the least bit inclined to get their heads around it and she had little help from other admins who just gave up trying to explain her reasonable request. Today, having cleansed the group of misogyny, posts were interesting once again.......and politically correct. She posted about an interesting excavation, so I guess she’s okay, not sure I would be....Good for her!
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Does people being assholes in social media qualify as an actual war on women?  Or are they just being assholes and gender has nothing to do with it?


I read or wrote something a while ago along the lines of, 'Dear SJW's.  Please stop gaying and gender bendering all the things'.  I don't recall specifics because it was in context of some other discussion.  Anyway...


Now if one is a social justice warrior type, it's likely they're going to interpret that in the worst possible way.  Misogyny!  Patriarchy!  Oppression!  The usual litany of nonsense.


However, this is not the case.  In Battlestar Galactica, Ron Moore version, Starbuck & Boomer were turned into women.  The original Starbuck was an indiana jones type cigar smoking womanizer.  Boomer an 'Iceman' type black man.  Now, Moore turning Starbuck and Boomer into girls turned out well.  It added to the plot, the drama and the intregue of the show.  The characters were well written and well acted.


Ghostbusters.  A remake like Battlestar, turned all the charecters female... for no apparent reason other than promotion of SJW dogma.  The charecters were not funny, not sympathetic, not well written and not well acted. 


Those are the primary reasons it tanked.  Also, the origional Ghostbusters had achieve a 'cult status' something like Rocky Horror Picture Show.  Mess with cult classics at your peril, it's not going to go well.  Both Rocky Horror and Ghostbusters were nearly perfect in every way.  There is absolutely no reason to remake either one.  They're classics that hold up very, very well.


There's another aspect, growing I think.  Or maybe it's just me.  I grow weary of female charecters who are not female.  They don't act female, they don't think female, they don't perform female.  What's wrong with being female?  I like females.


Take Sigourney Weaver in Alien.  Nothing she did was done in a masculine way.  She acted, spoke and had the capabilities of a woman.  She wasn't performing superhuman feats of strength, agility and intellect that would be impossible even for the greatest male olympian or any genius you care to point your finger at.


Seems like hollywood didn't learn the Superman lesson the comic book world ran into.  Heroism and bravery are impossible for a Superman who is all powerful and cannot be hurt.  We're not in awe of people who never fall down, we are in awe of those who fall... and get back up again.



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Sorry for not being on point with thread topic. It was not a gender issue when both men and women were opposed to gender neutral language. “All men are created equal...”. I objected to not continuing to be included in that language. Feminists are a pain, but make some good points. Jefferson wasn’t including women when when he wrote it and the Congress wasn’t including women when they approved it. We can’t rewrite it, but interpretation, a slight of hand perhaps, that “man” includes women is nicer than our founding fathers thoughts, or lack of thought. Women are not property, but some men still regard them and treat them, not as they do each other, but as lesser beings they own. Been quite a while since the war was won and yet it remains a global issue for women. There has never been a matriarchal society or goddess worshipped before Christianity subsumed them that was as successful as the patriarchy. Native American women had much more equality than their European counterparts, but it was lost to the influence of settlers. Are Women Human? Just to belabor the point: The best women characters on screen are from the 1940’s, written by women while men were at war. Displaced by men returning from war, women were put back in the places men wanted them. Understandable. Let’s forget they flew planes then and fly jets today.
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Delhi Crime released 2019 is on Netflix, based on the 2012 Nirbhaya case that I mentioned earlier in this thread. Not sure I can watch it. Only has two stars, but I hardly ever pay attention to them.
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I watched it....more about the politics of police departments and how poorly served the public is in general without a few white hats. It reveals a mindset that is appalling and the public outrage is corrective, but the girl still dies and the boyfriend with some minor injuries is not a guilt ridden hero. It’s amazing that police caught all five of the assailants in such a short time, but the public accuses them of not responding quickly enough. Nonetheless, an actual war on women seems understood globally. As you recount history, doesn’t it make you want to seek a Goddess to worship and a Matrilineal society in which to live? Since men have ruled the world, peace has been so temporary. I read the 1930’s, 40’s, editions of Nancy Drew in Junior High, a whole shelf of them. Some I couldn’t stop reading, and read through the night which left me pretty sleepy for school. They are infinitely better than the revisions and improvements from the 60s on until they were no longer selling. The interesting thing is Nancy’s character changed from fearless to timid and frightened—no one admires that in their heroine. The vocabulary went from 25 cent words down to 5 cent boring words which take so much longer to say anything. So take a popular and influential series of works and dumb it down to influence impressionable girls. Not likely any of them will become a Ruth Bader Ginsburg who claims Nancy influenced her, and Ruth is not the only high achiever who read the early Nancy. Part of the war strategy?
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I'm afraid I just cannot buy into the narrative that has passed through you.  I sincerely hope you've not given it much thought because if you have, and agree with it, you're not who I thought you were.


That narrative, suggesting that all of human history was basically just men oppressing women, is just inaccurate and poisonous in the most vile meaning of the word.  It's a narrative that has seeped into the public education system and absolutely destroyed the humanities in the colleges and universities.  It is not good and it is wrong in the most profound of ways.


The inevitable result has been just awful, warping women and alienating men.  If the goal of the third wave feminists is to create mayhem and unhappiness... they're doing quite a good job of it.  Consider this;  there has been an annual survey going on for quite a long time measuring the happiness of women, in general.  


The more women adopt the radical feminist's re-imagining of history and abandon gender roles, the more miserable they tend to become.  The research is clear and it is consistent across generations and nations.  The more like men women become the more unhappy they become.  I should not have to say that there are exceptions.  Exceptions, however, do not invalidate the finding.


This idea that women were oppressed until 1920 when a brave group of feminists forced men to give women the vote... well, that's just stupid. Absolutely gobsmacking stupid.  Men got the vote in this country what... 1856?  Wasn't there also a duty bound to voting, too?  Serving the militia or armed forces?  Prior to 1856, you also had to be a land owner, I believe.  The rate of societal change then wasn't what it is now.  And it was faster then than it was before.


Whatever and however these changes pan out, what is clear is that the idea that women are the same as men is utter bollocks and attempting to force women to be like men isn't going well.


Equality of opportunity within the limitations of biology and personal preference... absolutely.  Trying to force women to become men or men to downshift their drives and abilities so that women can compete is absolute lunacy.



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Well, well, well....my daughter is an excellent cook despite my never teaching her the ways of the kitchen. A college educated woman that she is, isn’t required, just a good cookbook which is all I had. She just doesn’t like it. Her husband isn’t better in the kitchen, he simply enjoys it more, and she is happy to clean up his horrific kitchen aftermath which he is not inclined to do. They’re equals and have negotiated roles that suit their happy marriage. Just one of many examples of respect men and women have each other. You may already be aware since the topic interests you: The Arab Invasion of the 7th century CE brought Islam to Egypt and effectively ended the kind of equality women had known in the country for almost 3,000 years.  https://www.ancient.eu/article/623/women-in-ancient-egypt/ Before that: Women's status began to decline in Egypt with the rise of Christianity in the 4th century CE and its belief that sin had entered the world through Eve's disobedience and that women were of less value and less to be trusted than men. Reading the article I was surprised that ancient Egyptian women had so many legal rights that we don’t have. We’re it not for the Will I discovered in an old insurance policy, the state would have divided half my husband’s property among our children leaving me unable to remain in our home. Had he not made me joint tenant on most investments and bank accounts I could have been in serious financial trouble. Fortunately, I am not a burden to my children, and I gave them more than they expected from his estate......that Idaho law got inside my head. None of that was an issue for ancient Egyptian women. Their Gods and Goddesses were all about balance and harmony. War is an answer, but it’s not the only one, except for Islam.....
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None of that was an issue for ancient Egyptian women. Their Gods and Goddesses were all about balance and harmony.


https://www.ancient.eu/article/623/women-in-ancient-egypt/


It's generally not a good idea to look at the past through rosy colored glasses.  The worst aspects of humanity today were present in the past and generally less restrained than today.  Romantizing the past leads to absolute nonsense like this:  "Birth control and abortions were available to married and unmarried women. The Ebers Medical Papyrus, c. 1542 BCE, contains a passage on birth control: "Prescription to make a woman cease to become pregnant for one, two, or three years. Grind together finely a measure of acacia dates with some honey. Moisten seed-wood with the mixture and insert into the vagina" (Lewis, 112)."


The only thing sticking a piece of wood soaked in acacia dates and honey up a vagina would do is cause a raging yeast infection, possibly combined with uterine or vaginal punctures. 


Hold on.  I suppose that would work.  Either the smell or the pain might qualify as 'birth control'... although considering some of the things dudes have stuck their dicks in... maybe not.


Let's not even contemplate how ancient Egyptians performed abortions. 


I'd also raise objection to failing to take into account just how massive an impact technology has had upon the lives of all women.  Who really gives a crap about queens and priestesses?  It's ordinary people who matter most and it has been technology that has lifted much of the burden of biology off of women, allowed them to expand their potential immeasurably.


Egypt was never a feminist utopia, it was merely a step along the way to what we have today.

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While history got us here, some of it has been lost, so an incomplete, sometimes covered up history, is what we have. There is no Utopia in what we know, so far. “Minoans” looked happy portrayed in their frescoes, pottery, had no defensive battlements, only ships as possible defense, were multicultural, had ingenious light, water, and sewer systems, and willing seller, willing buyer relationships with the Mediterranean....volcanoes destroyed them, not man. It’s has made me curious about accepting anything less. The ancients knew more than our smart ass arrogance gives them credit for.....slaves didn’t build the pyramids. American women have only had the vote for less than a century, never held the presidency, or been worshipped as goddesses.....despite all the evidence they could, would, or should from the history of other countries and ancient civilizations. Peter, the rock upon which Jesus thought his Church would be built, completely shut out Mary and created the patriarchy he held deep in his heart, not what Jesus had in mind when he kissed Mary on the lips. Religion may help large numbers of people to survive, but twisted at the top, it can do more harm than good, at least to women. Unfortunately, it’s warm and cozy for women who “know their place”.
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Slaves did build the pyramids.  Slaves, however, did not design them nor launch the construction.


I'm going to change course here a bit and suggest that there is a war on women in this country.  That war is being persecuted by 3rd wave feminists and SJW's.

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