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alaskaone
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Date Posted:11/07/2014 11:15 PM

So, the democrats tried throughout the last election to convince the votes that republicans are waging a 'war on women'... whatever that might be.  Apparently because republicans tend to loathe abortion (something that kills an awful lot of future women), those mean ol' republicans must be waging war on women.  I'm not sure of the logic behind that but there it is.

Meanwhile, across the pond there is a real 'war' on women and they're having a sale.  If you want a woman of your own, islam has some pretty reasonable prices: 

In response, the group determined specific prices for women and children, while “vowing to execute whoever violates those controls.” This is the worth of a human life, according to ISIS: 

  • A woman, 40 to 50-years-old: 50,000 dinars. ($42.90)
  • A woman, 30 to 40-years-old: 75,000 dinars. ($64.35)
  • A woman, 20 to 30-years-old: 100,000 dinars. ($85.80)
  • A girl, 10 to 20-years-old: 150,000 dinars. ($128.70)
  • A child, 1 to 9-years-old: 200,000 dinars. ($171.60) 

New York PostDaily MailRTInternational Business TimesOpposing Views and Christianity Today are among the few outlets to report on the story. 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/katie-yoder/2014/11/07/isis-sets-prices-female-slaves-media-whine-about-us-war-women-0

I'm not actually a conservative but I find it noteworthy that the rags that have chosen to air this atrocity are mainly conservative rags.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:11/20/2014 1:39 AM

Reply to katie5445 (11/18/2014 3:51 PM)


 I think first you have to realize that women do live in fear from strangers and unfortunately partners and often our court system shows little justice although there are laws.


I think you have to realize much the same is true for men and as far as the court system somehow being biased toward men and against women... that is clearly not true.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Date Posted:11/20/2014 2:06 AM

Probably in sentencing but as far as protection and a long history of dropped charges, charges dropped to misdemeanors and various deals made for violent and sexual abuses towards women, repeated offenders, it is worse for women.
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Date Posted:11/20/2014 9:41 PM

FGM in Egypt: Doctor and father cleared in landmark trial

Thank goodness the Loony religious nuts are no longer running the show......... Nocent

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30134078

The doctor and father of a 13-year-old girl who died after allegedly undergoing female genital mutilation (FGM) have been acquitted in a landmark trial in Egypt.

Doctor Raslan Fadl was cleared of all charges alongside the father of Suhair al-Bataa, a lawyer in the case said.

Suhair died in June 2013. Her doctor denied carrying out FGM on her, and blamed her death on an allergy.

The practice of FGM was banned in Egypt in 2008 but is still widespread.

More than 90% of Egyptian women aged under 50 have experienced it, according to government statistics..................>


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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:11/21/2014 12:29 AM



I've been an outspoken critic of the wholesale proliferation of guns through out our society.  About a year ago I applied for and got a permit to carry a gun and I bought one and keep it in my hand bag sometimes.  There were 4 women in period of about 12 mos sexually attacked at or around my workplace. 3 of them like me, sometimes work until the wee hours (2 or 3am) and when I leave for home it is necessary to walk through a parking garage.  The 4th one had been victimized before and she armed herself, the guy jumped her and she shot him in the stomach, (said she was aiming for his balls) in any event, I changed my position on concealed carry. But the police gave her a hard time and she was at first charged with illegally discharging a weapon in a public place and tried to cancel her gun permit.  After a formidable out cry, they dropped the charge.

I make a good salary , I don’t have a complaint about that but there are a lot of people that don’t respect a woman.  The American woman for the most part, in the Muslim countries, are treated with disrespect by most men.  When I was there, I never moved around out of uniform and very seldom left the confines of the protection of the military.  In Turkey and Morocco I ventured out a couple of times just to see the country, always with a head cover.  Turkey is not radical and many women dress in western garb.

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Date Posted:11/21/2014 2:37 AM

Outside of a very few places I've never had a problem with concealed carry. Car parks at night, automatic red flag for women. I mentioned I was in Turkey before the present administration. The only head scarves I saw were the old fashioned floral tied under the neck worn by rural women. Same with their clothing, layered, bright colourful and no fashion taste! However cities and towns amazed me, the women looked like they just walked out of a 5th Ave. NY shop and Tiffany Jewelers on their way to a fashion shoot for Vogue, I felt like a slob in my tourist duds. Another thing that surprised me about Turkey, they sure do drink an awful lot of alcohol and in public, they smoke like chimneys and like to gamble. I am wondering when you were in Turkey/Morroco, post 9/11? We were treated so well in both countries, including being invited by strangers to their homes for tea/meals and we actually took them up on it. So where I have pleasant memories, you do not.
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Date Posted:11/21/2014 1:44 PM

The people in Turkey were friendly enough.  I was in the Air Force, (enlisted member AC130) and got around very little.  I and a couple of guys did hire a taxi a couple of times and see some of the country, be it very little.  I was there in 2005 - 2007.  Morocco wasn’t bad either, again we hired a guide and saw a little of the country.  In Morocco, some women in Islamic garb, most young people in western dress.  Didn’t have any major problems in either country.  Course Iraq and Afghanistan was another matter, didn’t see any of the country except from the air.

It was suggested when we were off base that it may be a good idea to cover our head, which I did.

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Date Posted:11/24/2014 9:46 PM

Turkey president Erdogan: Women are not equal to men


The great man speaks!  It has to be true!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30183711

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said women cannot be treated as equal to men, and has accused feminists of rejecting motherhood.

"You cannot put women and men on an equal footing," he told a meeting in Istanbul. "It is against nature."

He also said feminists did not grasp the importance of motherhood in Islam.

His comments often seek to appeal to his pious core supporters, says the BBC's Mark Lowen in Istanbul, but they anger more liberal voters.

Turks who have more secular views argue that the government's social policies are taking the country in a dangerous direction, our correspondent says.

Mr Erdogan has previously urged women to have three children, and has lashed out against abortion and birth by Caesarean section..........>



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Date Posted:11/25/2014 2:04 AM

That man and his group are going to be the ruination of Turkey.
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Date Posted:11/25/2014 7:31 AM

 One of the reasons he keeps being voted back in is because his government has demonstrated that it is much better at managing the economy than its predecessor.
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Date Posted:12/12/2014 4:18 AM

 Well, I was not aware of how much Richard Speck bothered me until he died in prison, and I felt suddenly relieved and safe:  no more parole hearings where the nurses families had to appear and speak against his release.

Minoans were happy to be ruled by women, maybe it was because they exposed their breasts.  Guys lined up to get their cars washed  by topless college girls trying to make their rent.in a town north of me...not sure how long the law let them.  A woman can't legally sell the use of her body in most of the USA   She has to give it away or become an unpaid servant and child bearer in marriage.  Love is why she does it,, but it's still looked down upon, no matter what the mothers day cards say.

Men in the Middle East are far worse.


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Date Posted:12/12/2014 4:29 AM

 This thread is full of venting because women's liberation was so long ago and like the civil rights movement just drove the problem under the radar....actually slowed progress and made it worse.   I thought I was equal...it sucked to find out that I wasn't and more recently there's a glass ceiling?  WTF

Bodies, body parts are assigned a value by courts, nothing to do with war or gender, of course.
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Date Posted:12/12/2014 12:45 PM

I don't think the women's movement made it worse at all. Some of the Nazi fems drove me nuts but all minorities are better off than they were. It may be true but the men who state your better off than so and so, is that good enough, would a white man accept that statement, hell no! 
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Date Posted:12/13/2014 4:45 PM

 Contrast the.movies of the 40s Hepburn, Davis, etc scripts written by women exhilarated by the workplace, with those of the 50s Monroe, Gaynor, written by men tired of war and feminists had a point, but they were so beyond reason in their condemnation of men that they lost the hearts and minds of women.

Women are still the problem, not men.  We have the numbers to assert our equality, artificially, but we know we haven't earned it.  As long as men exceed our standards, instead of us rising to theirs that's the way it will remain.  The moon messes with us for 30 years or more and we like the look of high heels........but what do we do with ourselves when the family raising practicalities are done?  Do we prepare for a second career.  I did.  Some do.  Others just drift through days thinking they are no longer qualified for anything, careers were so long ago.  The ballerina is out of luck, but surely they could think of age appropriate interests that would keep them out of their daughter-in-law's hair......lol
I think we should learn Plato in high school, not just have his on the summer reading list.   Age 50was in his opinion when a person had acquired enough education an experience to be an effective leader.  What are most 50 year old women doing?

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Date Posted:12/13/2014 6:01 PM

Here is the women of this century, www.economist.com/node/15174418
 
My cousins wife retired over the summer at 56 with a 60k a year pension plus benefits. She spent 6 weeks in Spain and Italy this fall. I have lots of stories of women friends and relatives doing a helluva lot in the 50-60 age group, their life is uncomparable to my mothers, grandmothers and great grandmother!
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Date Posted:12/13/2014 6:08 PM

This one of my favorite 'women stories,' my sisters BF owns and runs an almond farm outside of Sacramento since she was 52, her daughter and grand kids are in Vancouver, WA., she drives up twice a month and takes them to one of her time shares, they've covered a  third of the states, she has also been single for many years, where she left a marriage that she was the greatest earner.
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Date Posted:12/13/2014 6:24 PM

It is nice to hear of these exception to the rule stories, Katie. Of course most of the hens today are languishing on the spoils of their late husband's toils. You see gangs of them lunching at the local restaurants cackling with each other about how well off they are.


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Date Posted:12/13/2014 6:52 PM

I wouldn't know, I have only one woman friend who married at 17, still married and is dependent on her husband. Most women I've known over the decades worked in a professional job and was never dependent on a man, whether through divorce or death and I have one friend only who was widowed at 45, she made more money at Nike than her husband. I believe it is less than the rarity you think it is you just don't want to accept our power and independence, do you. Poor men frightened you'll go without a meal, clean shirt, babysitter, we do it all, no worries.
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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:12/13/2014 7:23 PM

Really, with Swanson's, wrinkle free clothes, & porn who needs a woman? Besides masturbation allows you to think of anyone you want.


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Date Posted:12/13/2014 8:18 PM

How dull, boring and lonely can you possibly be, Swanson's, porn and masturbation...........
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Date Posted:12/13/2014 10:26 PM

Dull & boring can be fun, Katie. Don't forget the wrinkle free clothing.


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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:12/13/2014 10:50 PM

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I wouldn't know, I have only one woman friend who married at 17, still married and is dependent on her husband. Most women I've known over the decades worked in a professional job and was never dependent on a man, whether through divorce or death and I have one friend only who was widowed at 45, she made more money at Nike than her husband. I believe it is less than the rarity you think it is you just don't want to accept our power and independence, do you. Poor men frightened you'll go without a meal, clean shirt, babysitter, we do it all, no worries.


Now Katie, just because a woman has a professional job & may make more $ than a man, doesn't mean she is not dependent. Women still need to hear the things they like to hear, & be told the things they like to be told, even if none of that pap is true. Something about lack of self-esteem & being worthy of anything. And than there is the "I got a man" thingy that women hold as some kind of trophy.......even if the "man" they trap is a real piece of shit. She will share her bed with him & expose her whelps to his criminal intents.


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Date Posted:12/14/2014 1:57 AM

 Out of all the women in my barracks, only one of them was smart enough to date only married men because they would never leave their wives and children.   The rest of us thought she was nuts.  Aside from the ones who were lesbian and needed a husband to keep from getting thrown out of the Corps, most women were dreaming of marriage, finding the right guy and a military base is an astonishing selection of men with survival skills and there are so many of them compared to the women.  At the mess hall it was hard to tell whether you were on the menu or the food.  

The last thing I wanted was to get married,  might as well have stayed in Vermont if I wanted that.   So, I didn't think much of the other women in uniform at the time.  Exceptions are mildly comforting and more numerous, but the whining continues and women are the makers of their own misery.   Respect is earned....what is so difficult for people to understand?  
Is there a female general who can take the Presidency?
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Date Posted:12/14/2014 2:18 AM

 LOL..I'm whining..sorry.
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Date Posted:12/14/2014 12:39 PM

No, you bring up some good reasons why women & queers are not suited for the military & should not be allowed.


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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:12/14/2014 6:40 PM

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Reply to katie5445 (12/13/2014 12:52 PM)

I wouldn't know, I have only one woman friend who married at 17, still married and is dependent on her husband. Most women I've known over the decades worked in a professional job and was never dependent on a man, whether through divorce or death and I have one friend only who was widowed at 45, she made more money at Nike than her husband. I believe it is less than the rarity you think it is you just don't want to accept our power and independence, do you. Poor men frightened you'll go without a meal, clean shirt, babysitter, we do it all, no worries.


Now Katie, just because a woman has a professional job & may make more $ than a man, doesn't mean she is not dependent. Women still need to hear the things they like to hear, & be told the things they like to be told, even if none of that pap is true. Something about lack of self-esteem & being worthy of anything. And than there is the "I got a man" thingy that women hold as some kind of trophy.......even if the "man" they trap is a real piece of shit. She will share her bed with him & expose her whelps to his criminal intents.


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I'm beginning to question your taste in women.
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Date Posted:12/15/2014 1:32 AM

 Beginning ?   I seriously doubt......

Prince charming doesn't mean sincere.....from Into the Woods

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Date Posted:12/15/2014 1:33 PM

My taste in women? I am just reporting as the trained observer that I am. Another problem that most women have: reading comprehension, logic & reasoning.


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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:12/15/2014 1:55 PM

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No, you bring up some good reasons why women & queers are not suited for the military & should not be allowed.


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LOL 
You are baiting me...
The advancement of tech weaponry levels the battlefield and pay grade equality eliminates gender.   Military service is the best place for women to achieve and excell, at least for a time.  The experience of serving with people from all around the country enhances lives forever.  Sexual preference has nothing to do with battlefield performance, historically.  During Vietnam there was no difference between volunteers and draftees.  I'd vote to reinstate the draft and include women.
Bootcamp took off the makeup and revealed the weakness of many in my platoon who at first seemed strong.  Exhilarating to discover how much more capable some of us were than we ever expected, or would have asked of ourselves....but that's true for the men as well....typical for Marine Corps training.

Israel is a good military model for gender equality.

Most importantly, women end up on the battlefield, unarmed, whether we like it or not, we should be more realistic.


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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:12/15/2014 9:36 PM

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Reply to tommytalldog (12/14/2014 7:39 AM)

No, you bring up some good reasons why women & queers are not suited for the military & should not be allowed.


T-Dog


LOL 
You are baiting me...
The advancement of tech weaponry levels the battlefield and pay grade equality eliminates gender.   Military service is the best place for women to achieve and excell, at least for a time.  The experience of serving with people from all around the country enhances lives forever.  Sexual preference has nothing to do with battlefield performance, historically.  During Vietnam there was no difference between volunteers and draftees.  I'd vote to reinstate the draft and include women.
Bootcamp took off the makeup and revealed the weakness of many in my platoon who at first seemed strong.  Exhilarating to discover how much more capable some of us were than we ever expected, or would have asked of ourselves....but that's true for the men as well....typical for Marine Corps training.

Israel is a good military model for gender equality.

Most importantly, women end up on the battlefield, unarmed, whether we like it or not, we should be more realistic.



Nickel, women have their place even in the military. They could free up some jobs from the men, but combat should never be one of those. In the military, corporate America, industry......women are usually more trouble than they are worth. I will agree that everyone owes the country two years of some kind of service. Not necessarily in the military tho.


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Re:An actual war upon women

Date Posted:12/18/2014 3:40 PM

"At least 150 females, including pregnant women, were executed in Fallujah by a militant named Abu Anas Al-Libi after they refused to accept jihad marriage," the statement said. "Many families were also forced to migrate from the province’s northern town of Al-Wafa after hundreds of residents received death threats."

http://www.turkishpress.com/news/415983/

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