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So, the democrats tried throughout the last election to convince the votes that republicans are waging a 'war on women'... whatever that might be.  Apparently because republicans tend to loathe abortion (something that kills an awful lot of future women), those mean ol' republicans must be waging war on women.  I'm not sure of the logic behind that but there it is.

Meanwhile, across the pond there is a real 'war' on women and they're having a sale.  If you want a woman of your own, islam has some pretty reasonable prices: 

In response, the group determined specific prices for women and children, while “vowing to execute whoever violates those controls.” This is the worth of a human life, according to ISIS: 

  • A woman, 40 to 50-years-old: 50,000 dinars. ($42.90)
  • A woman, 30 to 40-years-old: 75,000 dinars. ($64.35)
  • A woman, 20 to 30-years-old: 100,000 dinars. ($85.80)
  • A girl, 10 to 20-years-old: 150,000 dinars. ($128.70)
  • A child, 1 to 9-years-old: 200,000 dinars. ($171.60) 

New York PostDaily MailRTInternational Business TimesOpposing Views and Christianity Today are among the few outlets to report on the story. 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/katie-yoder/2014/11/07/isis-sets-prices-female-slaves-media-whine-about-us-war-women-0

I'm not actually a conservative but I find it noteworthy that the rags that have chosen to air this atrocity are mainly conservative rags.

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Nope.
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Drat, wrong again.


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Re:An actual war upon women

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To most dying patients making peace with God is personal & not something they would share with nurse Ratchet, Katie.


Are you really attempting to claim that people do change their minds but just don't tell anyone?  That's as weak a claim as the "no atheists in foxholes" one.


Now shift, I realize that you fancy yourself much smarter than we dumb, bible clinging, gun toting Cons. However, a further review of my post #108: See "there are a lot of "foxhole" believers. Perhaps you failed a high skool reading comprehension test?


And there are a lot of foxhole atheists.  Maybe you should think before you type.


As for the Bible I have a simple question.  What makes you think it's true? 

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Simple answer (which I have done before) faith.


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It is the answer. As I said you can't prove many things I can't prove my husband loves me, he shows me which makes me have faith/trust that he does. Deeply devoted persons think it's God blessings for the good things that happen in their life, so you have faith. As long as you don't bug me I think it's a good thing to have, it helps people through tough times and that's all that counts not whether it's proven. 
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 If I told you that I took the kids to Disney World for Xmas break you'd have no trouble believing me.  But if I told you that we'd gotten a ride (both ways) in a UFO you'd demand proof and you'd say that anyone that believed me without verifiable proof was gullible.  

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If you told me you took your kids to Disney why would I ask you for proof? Maybe I should demand to see your Mickey ears? Whether you actually took them or are making it up, it is your business & I really don't care.


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From violent groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda to the ostensibly nonviolent Hizb ut-Tahrir and Muslim Brotherhood, those who want the establishment of an Islamic caliphate governed by sharia law want every woman to remain inside the house as wife and mother, unless she is accompanied by a male guardian, or mahram. Islamist ideology teaches that men should be shielded from women in public spaces in order to protect both sexes from what is seen to be inevitable: uncontrollable sexual desire and social disorder. Enforced wearing of the hijab, gender segregation, and prescribed gender roles are therefore used to help avoid chaos and vice. Those who challenge these codes are often held responsible for what ensues. Women who take to the streets in protest among men, for example, are blamed if this should lead to sexual violence. In Egypt, victims of sexual harassment have been repeatedly denounced and blamed for the actions of their attackers.
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It took days for police to confront the mass attacks in Germany, and weeks for the left-wing media to do so. The Guardian, for example, a British newspaper that is often vocal about “rape culture” in Western institutions such as university campuses, took almost two weeks to publish any opinion pieces on the matter. The Swedish media were even worse, accusing those who pointed out that the majority of attackers had described by victims as Arab or North African of racism. In doing so, the European left-wing media has abandoned its usual take on sexual violence and its duty to report the facts in favor of manufacturing public opinion. Denying the facts about Cologne does a huge disservice to cultural and ethnic minorities in Europe. In the U.K., turning a blind eye to — and in some cases actively covering up — crimes against women, all in the name of protecting supposed cultural sensitivities, is completely normal. One of the most devastating cases was in Rotherham, where public officials deliberately covered up thousands of cases of brutal sexual violence and abuse against young girls because most of the perpetrators were of Pakistani origin, according to a subsequent independent inquiry in 2014.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429878/european-gang-rape-refugees


Might be the New Years Eve attacks have cracked open the box of secrets.
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If you told me you took your kids to Disney why would I ask you for proof? 


That's not what I wrote - I said that you wouldn't accept that we got a ride both ways in a UFO without proof.  There is no more reason to believe in god or the bible than my claim about the UFO.
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God may be a space man........see Von Daniken.


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 True - but that doesn't mean that you'd be gullible enough to accept that I hitched a ride on a UFO.  At least I hope you wouldn't be.  But there is no more evidence of the existence of god than there is of my claim that little green men gave me a lift to Disneyworld.
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You don't need evidence to believe, all you need is faith. Besides, I believe what the nuns taught me & if you think it's wrong YOU take it up with THEM. I am still afraid of them to this day.


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 LOl....nuns scared me.....I still keep a distance.   After the boy next to me in first grade got his fingers whacked, I left the school grounds as soon as they let us out for recess.  All the tricks tried to get me back in class in the following days, failed.  I begged my mother not to make me go back, and finally she enrolled me in public school where I received an inferior education out of harms way......at least that's the way it worked out for me except for one minor threat from a jealous girlfriend about a boy I had no interest in dating.

Considering the population of India and their male population's view that no decent woman is out after 5 or 6 o'clock.....stopping the excessive number of rapes is formidable, despite the protest marches that have occurred.....India's Daughter, instant play on Netflix, was a real shocker.....had absolutely no idea.  The girl was a recent medical school graduate and she wasn't even alone, a male friend of hers was restrained while the brutal beyond words rape occurred 
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I did quite a bit of reading about the attack on that poor woman and her friend, Nickel. 

Her name was Jyoti Singh, 23 years old and still a medical student.  She and her boyfriend had gone out to see the movie, "Life of Pi", and while trying to go home, boarded a stolen bus, in December 2012. 

The men who stole the bus say they had intended to joy ride in it but got drunk.  When Ms Singh and her friend boarded the bus they began driving.  A little while later, they attacked her friend and beat him unconscious with a tire iron.  She tried to protect her friend, biting and scratching several of the attackers but that was about as successful as you would expect.

(Caution:  the following is really bad)

By the time they were done with her, she had severe bite marks all over her, had been beaten with fists and the tire iron and had 90% of her intestines were pulled out through her pelvis.  They had raped her with the tire iron, too, and pulled her guts out with their hands.

(End)

The attackers threw Ms. Singh and her friend out the back door of the bus onto the road then tried to back over them with the bus.  Ms. Singh's friend regained consciousness and dragged her off the road, the attackers gave up and drove off.  No one stopped to help them until a police officer happened by.

I wanted to give the complete story because it's important in order to understand that in order to understand what happened next... as best as I could put it together after translation from Hindi to English.

Ms. Singh survived either 13 or 15 days, I believe she was able to speak and I am certain she was able to write... but I believe the time she was able to do either was not very long... but long enough to say what happened to her and her friend.

Once the people, particularly the women of India had learned of what happened to her, outrage began to simmer. 
  • They learned the attackers had been stopped by police earlier that night... but the officers had let them go either because they were too lazy to apprehend them, claimed they were not within their jurisdiction or (and this probably the real reason) the attackers had paid the customary bribes and been allowed to go
  • Indians began paying attention to the lax punishments for rape, and the indifferent attitudes of police and the courts in prosecuting them.
  • Indian women began talking about their experiences in their day to day lives; harassment, molestation, incest, child prostitution, rape... and began understanding how pervasive those things really were.

And when Ms. Singh finally died of her injuries, the protesting against the governments lax punishments for crimes against women, corruption of the police force changed to demands for vengeance and to lynch the attackers.

Who struck first is unlikely to ever be learned but riots began and it's 'authority' challenged, the government responded with violence, beating protesters with clubs and hitting them with water cannons in sub-freezing temperatures.

This is noteworthy.  I cannot think of any other country where the population responded to the rape, torture and murder of a woman in this way.  I wish it were possible to say that the brutality done to Ms. Singh were unique... we all know that's not true.  But have the people of any other country stood up like that?

As shamed as the people of India must be for what happened to Ms. Singh, they should also be equally proud for how they reacted and I cannot help but think there have been changes in how women are treated in India as a result.

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 Apparently, it was not beyond words......   Still, I think the Netflix documentary captures it better than I could.  It's odd that I didn't want to read the words of your post that I knew were coming.  I don't think India or any other country wants to think that they have citizens who would visit such horrors on each other, and I am certain they won't want to dwell on it, and yet the forgetting of it is a risk.  I would like to think as you do that changes have been made....it would never happen again....but I seriously doubt that the country can go back to feeling good about itself anytime soon.   Next time, the perpetrators will make sure the victims die and are disposed of in such a way as to never be found.  That's the lesson I fear has been learned.  Women will not go out after the appropriate hour.....if they know what's good for them.   That's their reality until they are viewed as equally human.....perhaps in the next generation, after the current male population dies off over the next 50 to 60 years, and only if their beliefs die with them and are not passed on to those around them.   A TALL order for such a vast country.  Suttee has taken how long since the British outlawed it....and hasn't quite disappeared, yet.

And yet, the protests were impressive and people do rule.

Within memory a woman was shot by her abusive husband while on camera! during an interview with a journalist about his abusive behavior....right here in America!   Domestic violence is sickeningly prevalent in the U.S. and we just don't want to talk about it or where these young men come from who think they own a woman just because........

It's a matter of degree, of course, but what we do about it and when.....   Well, it appalls me to see the bill boards sponsored by the YWCA  reminding us....and the buildings they built with grant money as shelters for women, the playground for their children....... on Main Street.  Worst of all is that they are typically in use......   I am so sorry that such facilities are necessary and young men are responsible, not just the over 30 types.  When will that change?  How?  The courts assess damage once the damage is done, but what will prevent it in the first place.....what's missing or present in the upbringing of males, and/ or females, that allows such ways of thought and behavior?

Are we on the path to stopping it or driving it under the radar?




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I understand but, oddly, am not quite so pessimistic on this particular issue.

My reasoning is thus;  until Ms. Singh's assault and murder, rape and violence against women were so common as not to be news worthy or the media found it so.  That, I think, is no longer the case.  Certainly, a generation or two will need to die off before the attitude dies off... but that means the end can be seen, does it not?

And, yes, from time to time shit happens here in this country... but it's rare enough to be news worthy.  It's condemned by society (even within prisons), and we're now faced with goofiness of what's going on in the nations college campus's.

Back to India.  It's a well known aspect of human behavior that in most crowds, where something bad is happening, 9 out of ten of the people witnessing the event are saying to themselves, 'someone should stop this from happening'.   That 1 person left is saying to themselves, "I should stop this from happening".

Perhaps, prior to Ms. Singh, that one person was too frightened to intervene.  Now, perhaps, they wont be.
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I followed the story as well, it was hard just to reread it. I don't Nickel when you read our own news and newscasts it seems discouraging, wasn't it just a week or so ago a father and daughter were held at gunpoint while 4 or 5 "men" raped the daughter?  Every week on our broadcast news in this state there is a teacher or someone in charge of children who has been molested. I don't think much about being in a mass murder situation but most of my life it was worried about some type of male sexual violence or towards the kids/grand kids, I don't think men can really understand it, you have to feel it. And no, having a gun does not taking that feeling away, nothing does.
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I followed the story as well, it was hard just to reread it. I don't Nickel when you read our own news and newscasts it seems discouraging, wasn't it just a week or so ago a father and daughter were held at gunpoint while 4 or 5 "men" raped the daughter?  Every week on our broadcast news in this state there is a teacher or someone in charge of children who has been molested. I don't think much about being in a mass murder situation but most of my life it was worried about some type of male sexual violence or towards the kids/grand kids, I don't think men can really understand it, you have to feel it. And no, having a gun does not taking that feeling away, nothing does.

Being sexually assaulted feels roughly the same be you male or female. 

Being sexually assaulted is a big deal... but then so is being 'just' assaulted.  I often wonder whether making such big fuss over sexual assault doesn't give it more 'importance' than it really deserves and causes more damage than it should.

Example:  last summer, first born fell off the monkey bars and split her scalp open about 2 inches on the back of her head.  A child looks toward his/her parents to see how he/she should react to something.  Had I freaked out, she would have freaked out and it would have become a major ordeal created primarily by how I reacted to the injury rather than the injury itself.

One person could be beaten with a stick to within a heartbeat of their life and we, as a society, are sympathetic but we don't create a whole special 'victim hood' category for them, implying that they are henceforth a 'beaten to withing an inch of their life victim' and should be suffering hosts of mental problems for the remainder of their lives.

I think that sort of thing is at least as damaging to a person as a parent's over reacting to a minor injury is to a small child.
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You don't need evidence to believe, all you need is faith. Besides, I believe what the nuns taught me & if you think it's wrong YOU take it up with THEM. I am still afraid of them to this day.


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Sorry Alaska, your kid's 2" cut is no big deal, being raped sticks for life.
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You don't need evidence to believe, all you need is faith. Besides, I believe what the nuns taught me & if you think it's wrong YOU take it up with THEM. I am still afraid of them to this day.


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 Offering to pray for me is pretty much the same as me offering to write your letter to Santa.   But I think Stephen Fry summed things up perfectly

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Sorry Alaska, your kid's 2" cut is no big deal, being raped sticks for life.

Does it have to, though? 

Had I made a big deal over my daughters injury, if 'society made endless movies, novels, government programs to simultaneously tell her how bad it was and help her recover, a 'two inch cut' would have 'stuck for life', too.

I'm suggesting that treating rape... instilling the idea that it should 'stick for life'... isn't helpful to the victim.  Might even cause more actual long term damage to them than the assault itself did.


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It isn't instilled at all there is a victim and victimhood, I don't anyone to live under victimhood but you seem to think it isn't something someone still has to live their life with, they do and it's a hard row to hoe forever, a cut you don't.
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Sigh.

I'm experiencing a crisis in self-esteem. 

As near as I can figure only one of the following is happening.

A)  I'm a total genius with an IQ so high that it has made communication with other humans impossible.

       Or

B)  I'm a total moron with an IQ so low that it has made communication with other human beings impossible.

Clearly, 'A', isn't it.

I am totally able to zip up my own pants without help from anyone else... so how could it possibly be, 'B'?

Yet when I posit concepts, ideas, 'causes & effects' that seem really, quite self-evident and perfectly sensible, logical, reasonable, demonstrable, amazingly obvious... I'm constantly confronted with blank stares.

Wait a moment...   A while ago, one of my schizophrenic inmates was shaking an open bag of freshly microwaved popcorn... for a long time.  Part of my job is to monitor the schizophrenics 'cause, you know, they don't like to take their meds.

I inquired, 'whatchya doin'?  Said individual replied, and I quote, 'Shaking out the microwaves'.  I imagine my expression in response to that statement was much the same blank stare so many people give me.

So... I've got to add a third possibility.

C)  I'm schizophrenic.
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 That post was funny, a1.
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 If we don't make a big deal of it.......maybe that would be better for the victim...... 
Many victims just want to forget, take the shower, and not tell anyone, as it is.

Would that stop rape, or would we be on the same path as India?

Men don't seem to be upset about rape unless it's done to a member of their family....then a time to kill kicks in.

Prostitution should be legal in a free country, like ours.   Still wouldn't end rape, but it would likely reduce it significantly.
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Reply to Nickel (02/06/2016 9:37 AM)

 If we don't make a big deal of it.......maybe that would be better for the victim...... 
Many victims just want to forget, take the shower, and not tell anyone, as it is.

Don't most people want to forget a traumatic event?

Would that stop rape, or would we be on the same path as India?

I don't think so.  We've a completely different culture.  I can imagine no way in which it could ever become accepted practice in this nation to burn brides, throw acid in women's faces, dowry's, or any of the other myriad horrors committed routinely against women in other nations.

Men don't seem to be upset about rape unless it's done to a member of their family....then a time to kill kicks in.

'Scuse me?  I beg to differ.

Prostitution should be legal in a free country, like ours.

I agree.

Still wouldn't end rape, but it would likely reduce it significantly.

It would improve the life of prostitutes a great deal... from the lowest echelons, the street walkers, to the highest... although it might negatively impact the fees the highest echelon are able to charge.

Interesting note... in Japan, male escorts and 'prostitutes' are becoming a 'thing'.  Women are hiring them... less trouble, they say, than having a boyfriend/husband.

Funnily enough, that's much the same reason men here give for visiting prostitutes.
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First explain to me how you "forget" a life trauma? I believe men are sensitive to the rape of women unless you are a rapist. What they can't feel is our vulnerbility to violence and that is not just if you are raped, it is something women always live with. It is not the sex act that one can't get over, it is the violence of it, it is being caught from behind or out of a dead sleep in your bed and not knowing if you will be tortured, abducted or killed, dismembered and tossed somewhere. I would imagine males that have been raped have similar feelings but I don't know, I have never had a male patient admit to being raped.
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The “make rape legal” guys cancel meetups because they don’t feel safe

... the group announced the meetings on Feb. 6 were being called off because the group “can no longer guarantee the safety of men who want to attend.” The group also said they have scrubbed the listing page of the locations where the meetings were expected to be held.)

http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/legal-rape-advocate-ripped-over-planned-mens-meet-up/

These guys would never survive as women.


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