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Several days ago, I found a post that proves all these disasters were caused by man made climate war. 


ZERO rain in California. Yet jet stream flows over state.

Mon Nov 5, 2018 3:57am

166.182.66.10


The weather terrorists continue to spray dessicants over the moisture field yet again to prevent cohesion and lift of the huge moisture field moving from the Pacific Ocean over California. This is the pattern so far this monsoon season that usually begins in late September and October. The aerosols and EMF weather machines such as NEXRAD and SBX-1 are I full deployment to continue to dry out and destroy California. No rain anywhere here. 


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwuLHC-q8y


http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=175790;article=1617430;title=Religion%20and%20Ethics%20BBS



Read the whole passage at: 


http://katsung.forumotion.com/t16-heavy-aerosol-chemtrail-spraying-prevents-rain-despite-jet-stream-moisture-flow#205


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Re:California wild fire is a man made disaster

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11/14/2018 7:01 上午

Several days ago, I found a post that proves all these disasters were caused by man made climate war. 


ZERO rain in California. Yet jet stream flows over state.

Mon Nov 5, 2018 3:57am

166.182.66.10


The weather terrorists continue to spray dessicants over the moisture field yet again to prevent cohesion and lift of the huge moisture field moving from the Pacific Ocean over California.

This is the pattern so far this monsoon season that usually begins in late September and October. The aerosols and EMF weather machines such as NEXRAD and SBX-1 are I full deployment to continue to dry out and destroy California.

No rain anywhere here. 


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwuLHC-q8y


http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=175790;article=1617430;title=Religion%20and%20Ethics%20BBS


Read the whole passage at: 


http://katsung.forumotion.com/t16-heavy-aerosol-chemtrail-spraying-prevents-rain-despite-jet-stream-moisture-flow#205




We could do with some of that stuff around here!


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California wildfires fast facts Firefighters are battling three major wildfires in California. Here's a breakdown by the numbers as of Wednesday morning, according to Cal Fire and local officials. Camp Fire Location: Butte County 135,000 acres burned 35 percent contained 48 fatalities confirmed, 3 firefighters injured 8,817 structures destroyed, 7,600 of them homes Woolsey Fire Location: Los Angeles County, Ventura County 97,620 acres burned 47 percent contained 2 fatalities confirmed, 3 firefighters injured 435 structures destroyed, 57,000 in danger Hill Fire Location: Ventura County 4,531 acres burned 94 percent contained https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/california-fires-camp-woolsey-containment-evacuations-death-toll-2018-11-14-live-updates/ Our former Fire Chief was from California and he was always upset at the news of yet another tragic loss of life and property there. He questioned the building codes of communities that suffered these losses over and over. Why do they allow people to build there when they know the high risk that Fire presents in these areas, year after year. We have flood plain issues. Once the flood plain was established, anyone who chose to build on it would not be eligible for compensation. That was really tough on neighbors a few years back when some built before the establishment of the flood plain were compensated. We also have grass fires started by lightening that burn for days on the hillside and forest fires that cover the valley with smoke so thick I judge whether I can see the neighbor’s house or the hill before going out to get the mail. Rain is really appreciated, but a little wind works both ways to bring smoke in or blow it out. Not many of our fires are human error: to various degrees we are all fire fighters, schooled by experience and information campaigns. The chemical sprays are too quietly done and damaging our ecosystem, but the word is getting out, that’s why they’re kept secret when possible. You know they are being responsive to the public, the outcry about stopping fires, but they are not being responsible.....they know better but respond politically. An ignorant public can do plenty of damage.
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California wildfires: Is Trump right when he blames forest managers?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46183690




..............But concerns have been voiced about whether there's been enough emphasis on longer-term fire prevention.

Scott Stephens, a leading authority on wildfires at the University of California, has for some years been questioning forest management priorities.

He believes more focus needs to be put on more on sensible management of the environment and better land use to avoid "catastrophic burning".

He has also pointed to the large number of dead trees in parts of the state, due to drought and disease, as a serious fire risk that needs to be addressed.

Tom Bonnicksen, professor of forest science at Texas A&M University, says the real issue is that there are too many trees in California's forests, which he told the BBC was the "underlying cause of the wildfire crisis".

He believes forests need to be thinned out.

How could forests be managed differently?

Prof Stefan Doerr, at Swansea University, says the modern policy of putting out all fires in wild areas may have been misguided.

For centuries, Native American peoples would burn parts of the forest so they could hunt or gather plants that grow in the cleared areas and that would thin out the more flammable vegetation and make forests less dense.

"But in the recent century or so, the emphasis has been on putting out any fires - and with climate change this has now created a tinderbox of vegetation," Prof Doerr told BBC News.

The case for allowing controlled fires to clear out vegetation also applies to other types of landscape such grass and shrub land, according to another expert.

Even though they have no trees, these areas would also benefit from burning out potentially flammable material, the argument goes............>


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Reply to Katsung,


http://katsung.forumotion.com/t16-heavy-aerosol-chemtrail-spraying-prevents-rain-despite-jet-stream-moisture-flow#205


Hello, welcome aboard.


I don't even know where to begin with the contents of that link... so I won't other than to suggest that it's all extremely unlikely. 


The US forest service and the state of California have mismanaged their lands and forests for decades.  It's well documented and easily observable.





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1047. Behind wildfire (11/10/2018) In "1041", I wrote, "I have a feeling such a long lasting wildfires were the work of the Feds. The purpose is to find a reason to stop me from burning withered leaves." The tactic continues so I wrote "1044. Shut off power supply to "prevent" fire " and then "1045. Oakland fire", now it develops to: [quote]N. California’s Paradise fire becomes one of state’s worst: 6,700 structures lost; at least 9 dead" Los Angeles Times (TNS) Nov 9, 2018 https://www.heraldcourier.com/news/national/n-california-s-paradise-fire-becomes-one-of-state-s/article_502cfcd8-621d-5748-8ec9-e5cb87ec6ac6.html[/quote] Several days ago, I found a post that proves all these disasters were caused by man made climate war. [quote]Pt. 2; 11-4-2018; Heavy Aerosol Chemtrail Spraying Prevents Rain Despite Jet Stream Moisture Flow! Published on Nov 4, 2018 (Sun.) Pt.2; The Watervapor and IR maps show substantial moisture flowing through California and Nevada on the Jet Stream, yet there is ZERO precipitation showing up on the Doppler map! The reason no rain is falling is becuase of the massive chemtrail aerosol spraying high above the incoming moisture to 'cap' the atmosphere! Since there is an official no-rain forecast in Southern CA for the next 10 days, we see the specially equipped jets spraying the chemtrail aerosols to stop the atmospheric lift necessary for the precipitation process. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwuLHC-q8y[/quote] Read the whole passage at: http://katsung.forumotion.com/t16-heavy-aerosol-chemtrail-spraying-prevents-rain-despite-jet-stream-moisture-flow#205
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1048. Chemtrail to alter the weather (11/17/2018) The Feds spread chemical to change the area's air pressure to force the humid air mass away from California, that has made California a dried land for year long. [quote]ZERO rain in California. Yet jet stream flows over state. Mon Nov 5, 2018 3:57am 166.182.66.10 The weather terrorists continue to spray dessicants over the moisture field yet again to prevent cohesion and lift of the huge moisture field moving from the Pacific Ocean over California. This is the pattern so far this monsoon season that usually begins in late September and October. The aerosols and EMF weather machines such as NEXRAD and SBX-1 are I full deployment to continue to dry out and destroy California. No rain anywhere here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwuLHC-q8y http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=175790;article=1617430;title=Religion%20and%20Ethics%20BBS [/quote] 14 years ago, I talked about how the Feds changed the climate by chemtrail. (218). Chemtrail and covert climate war (4/4/04) In many web sites, there is a common topic: "chemtrail". People puzzled what is it for. They worried the chemistry will hurt human's health and pollute the nature. Here is a typical post about chemtrail in a discussion. Quote, "Chemtrail, the name given to non-dissipating vapor-like trails left in our skies in grid like patterns by high altitude, unmarked aircraft. People all over the world have now witnessed these, and they've been so concerned that they have contacted their governmental representatives. Dennis Kucinich has included this phenomenon as part of his protest statements against U.S. space weapon development. Other senators have been involved, too. ...... (353). Hurricane (3) Chemical and Greece air accident (10/27/05) When I said Hurricane Katrina and Rita were created by Feds for a framed case, there were sarcasms such like "You mean government has a weather machine?", or "to create a hurricane with a fan?". Those people, either are very ignorant, or most likely, to smear a truth on purpose. Government doesn't use an oven to produce a warm weather or use a fan to blow wind, just like they don't sprinkle the water to make an artificial rain. They use chemical. (see #218. Chemtrail and climate war) Control climate generally means control the movement of air stream. By contro
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The theory implies the federal government is far smarter than... well, than they are.  Having dealt with agents of the federal government, having dealt with agencies of the federal government, and having dug into the history of the federal government... nothing I've read suggests they are capable of competently tying their own shoes let alone manipulating mass and energy in the scale necessary to change weather patterns.


For the sake of argument, though, let's assume all of that is an elaborate charade.  Unka sam is, despite appearances of being a fucking moron, is actually an evil genius.


Why would he mess with California in that manner?  CA is, after all, one of the biggest supporters of Unka sam that there is.


What chemical is capable of changing the course of the jet stream?  How is such a chemical delivered in the quanities necessary?


What might their end goal be?

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Climate Wars: The Fight for Survival as the World Overheats Mass Market Paperback – April 1, 2011

by Gwynne Dyer  (Author)

........

Desertification of the planet seems to me more likely to cause conflict as people abandon locations where it is no longer feasible to live in favor of places where people are living quite well.  Migration patterns away from once luxurious bounty in the Fertile Crescent should have been a red flag, but until it’s too late we won’t become aware.  Rome fell because barbarians cut off the water supply.  The ingenious Nabateans of Petra had water and flourished until a shorter route for trade enticed their clients.  So, moving around the world of plenty is no problem until, well, the plenty dries up for whatever reason.

Then, the conflicts begin, and though science might explain what’s happening and what might be done about it, business, blind as usual to consequences outside of profit margins, find it benefits them to create doubt, become Merchants of Doubt. That’s really all it takes to derail science.


....Crucially, as we note in our paper:

Public perception of the scientific consensus has been found to be a gateway belief, affecting other climate beliefs and attitudes including policy support.

That’s why those who oppose taking action to curb climate change have engaged in a misinformation campaign to deny the existence of the expert consensus. They’ve been largely successful, as the public badly underestimate the expert consensus, in what we call the “consensus gap.” Only 16% of Americans realize that the consensus is above 90%.

Lead author John Cook explaining the team’s 2016 consensus paper.


What goes around, comes around.
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Why climate change is good for the world
Don't panic! The scientific consensus is that warmer temperatures do more good than harm
Matt Ridley

Climate change has done more good than harm so far and is likely to continue doing so for most of this century. This is not some barmy, right-wing fantasy; it is the consensus of expert opinion. Yet almost nobody seems to know this. Whenever I make the point in public, I am told by those who are paid to insult anybody who departs from climate alarm that I have got it embarrassingly wrong, don’t know what I am talking about, must be referring to Britain only, rather than the world as a whole, and so forth.

At first, I thought this was just their usual bluster. But then I realised that they are genuinely unaware. Good news is no news, which is why the mainstream media largely ignores all studies showing net benefits of climate change. And academics have not exactly been keen to push such analysis forward. So here follows, for possibly the first time in history, an entire article in the national press on the net benefits of climate change..........>

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There you go, a charming merchant of doubt in action. Not interested, but googled a few things about climate change. What does he know? Well, how many times does he say, I don’t know. Didn’t know China changed their one child policy. Humor the audience, ridicule the opposition, accuse them of being paid for pseudoscience. At first, he says, You can make up your own mind, by the end he’s made it up for you and told you what to think, even put in a pitch for nuclear. Strategies of a cult leader, an abusive husband, yep, pretty much all there. Why are there so many people leaving their homes, culture, and identities behind for places they think are better for them and their families? So many numbers of them that countries can’t or won’t assimilate them.
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355. Hurricane (4): Chemical and climate war(11/2/05) The chemical used to create a hurricane is possibly a kind of refrigerant. When the compressed refrigerant is released in air, it gasifies quickly and sucks a lot of heat. That's how a refrigerant works. When it is used in a closed cabinet, that plane becomes a cooler of the refrigerator. This was what happened in Greece air plane. Freon was a popular refrigerant. Several years ago, scientists said it destroyed the ozonosphere and banned it. It means Freon reacts with part element of air. To destroy the ozonosphere takes a large quantity of Freon. I think it was the result when it was used in experiment of a covert climate war. I also believe this is why Bush rejected the Tokyo treaty. The government knew they are altering the weather deliberately. Since climate war depends on chemical spreading, how can Feds apply it on other countries? Read the news here. Quote, "Treat of shoulder fired missiles prompts action By steve Johnson Mercury News, 4/8/2004 Some federal officials hope to modify US commercial planes to fire lasers, launch flares ...... fly at night with lights dimmed to foil terrorists armed with portable missiles. While no planes in this country have come under missile attack so far, the government wants to be prepared." A device which launches flares also can spread chemical. And how can it avoid being spotted with a chemtrail? Fly at night. All this was in the name of anti-terrorist. Anyhow, the proposal was denied by the House due to the high cost. Then I have heard two news. One was in newspaper. (I didn't keep that newspaper because at first I didn't realize the real meaning behind it) It said because the fuel cost was too high, commercial airline decided to reduce the flight weight. One way was to reduce the water reserve which used to flush the toilet by half. The other one was from a TV news. It said a family was stunned when their roof of the house was broken through by a chunk of ice. Later it was proved the ice was the toilet water of a commercial plane. It said the toilet water released by air plane encountered with a cool air and froze to an ice. My allegation is this was an experiment when a commercial plane was reformed to spread chemical. It may also prove my allegation that the chemical was a kind of refrigerant which can freeze certain amount of water instantly.
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How Refrigerators Work | HowStuffWorks


Refridgerants require compression and expansion to transfer heat from one place to another.

Causes Of Ozone Depletion - Universe Today


Thus far, I'm unconvinced climate change is a deliberate act by unka sam or anyone else.  This is not to say human activity has no contribution to climate change, I'm merely suggesting it is an unintended consequence of our activities and given the current behavior of our sun, perhaps a serendipitious one in that the warming spell we're having may be counteracting the effects a slightly cooler sun would ordinarily have.


Ice ages suck.

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We might not have whiskey, but for the last ice age which made it impossible to grow grapes, so survivors switched to grains, hunters became farmers, and women lost the moon traditions because the sun grew crops. Conspiracy theories are fascinating, but so dark and depressing that just like death I don’t give them much thought, since what am I going to do? Look up, and say, I don’t want to die? Yeah, God’s going to hear that and laugh like He does at my plans. It’s taken me years to laugh with Him about those plans. People Rule and awareness is all politicians need to act accordingly, so keep working at it, katsung47.
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1049. Paradise fire was done by the Feds (11/23/2018) Fearing the Feds to make arrest by claiming they found drug trace in garbage, I used to burn the withered leaves. I think the Feds created wildfires to justify an arrest. Last month (October) I wrote #1044, alleged the Feds would justify search and arrest by wildfire on 10/14. That day, PG&E strangely shut down the power supply to part of North California. I particularly noticed it because the Feds used to create big event on action day. 10/14 was the leaving date of my wife's Mid-east travel. Feds used to make arrest at check point at air terminal when they can legally search passengers. A recent news indicates they had prepared Paradise fire as early as in October. [quote]California fire: PG&E canceled planned power shut-off in Paradise area just before Camp fire broke out 2018/11/16 On Oct. 14, the company cautiously shut off power to some 60,000 Sierra foothills and North Bay customers, hoping to prevent any downed power lines from sparking a fire. On Nov. 6, PG&E again began warning 70,000 customers — including those in the town of Paradise — that it might flip the switch in the face of fire danger. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/la-pol-ca-power-shutoffs-wildfires-utilities-20181116-story.html[/quote] This is exactly what I wrote one month ago: 1044. Shut off power supply to "prevent" fire (10/20/2018) In #1041, I wrote that the Feds have made a plot in October. They arranged tours for my sisters and my wife. My wife's Mid East tour is from 10/14 to 10/28. As for me, I allege they would justify an arrest for "burning" yard trash. To make the arrest reasonable, they have created historical big wild fire in California. In Oct.15, I read a news: [quote]PG&E keeps nearly 60,000 Northern California customers in the dark to reduce wildfire risk Ashley May and Kristin Lam, USA TODAY Oct.15, 2018 A utility company purposefully shut off electricity to nearly 60,000 Northern California customers Sunday night, aiming to reduce wildfire risks from power lines during extreme winds. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2018/10/15/pge-voluntarily-shut-off-power-north-california-wildfires/1646686002/[/quote] It means California is in so dangerous situation that even PG&E shut off the power supply to 60,000 customers in advance to prevent a fire risk. My view is it proves my predict that the Feds created a case to frame me and my family in. The "Sunday night" was Oct.14 night. The time my wife left for her Mid-east tour.
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1050. A wildfire that not burn trees (12/1/2018)


Here is a picture of Paradise after the fire. You can see Houses were burned into ashes, But trees remain green. By common sense, was it possible?


[img]http://www.trbimg.com/img-5bee39f5/turbine/la-me-paradise-fire-gallery-025/800/800x450[/img]


http://www.trbimg.com/img-5bee39f5/turbine/la-me-paradise-fire-gallery-025/800/800x450


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/la-pol-ca-power-shutoffs-wildfires-utilities-20181116-story.html


To burn a house to the ground usual takes hours or days, that will affect nearby trees. Unless the houses were made by papers, (then they would have been burned in seconds or minutes). The picture shows a "fire" flashed through the town that only destroyed houses but left trees alone. I think the Feds were behind this tragedy. They planned this for a long time. To create a dry weather (see #1047 to 1049) and select Paradise as victim (see #1044). They finally carried it out on November 8 because it is rain season. They had made California a "no rain" land for too long time and wouldn't abandon it for doing nothing. 


To wipe out the witnesses, all town were ruined. The time was at 6:30 when people were asleep. To justify the high death rate they said the fire grew at about 80 football fields per minute. Since they controlled the media, I think people will never know how many people died. 


Reference:


[quote]Emily Cragg - California Fires Directed Energy Weapons


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4FkILI5bos&t=1695s[/quote]


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What in the hell are you talking about?

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