Candace Owens vs. Lieu

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So a rep from California attempted the usual shenanigans at a hearing on 'hate' crimes... whatever the hell a 'hate' crime is. Candace Owens, once she was given opportunity to respond, carved him a new arsehole.

She then went on to eviscerate the Democrat party in general.

It was a thing of beauty.

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Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu

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I hear Sowell in some of what she says.

Gotta love her Grandfather for raising her the equal of anyone, leaving out the fear of everyone white.  Connecticut is north.  

I have a hard time with her characterizing Philadelphia because I went through bootcamp with a black woman from there, the equal of anyone in our platoon, who only feared, because of what she had heard, whites in Richmond VA.  1963.  Feels like the south has risen, and not in a good way, if whites like that are in Philly.  But then, I was shocked by the Newark riots. I rode there on my bicycle from Elizabeth and never sensed any racial tension, just people of many colors.  Certainly not like the experience of the south.  

We were warned by friends in California that the south had made them racists, well, we were ashamed of them for that, and didn’t change who we were because the south really was different just as they claimed, race and knowing your place saturated the communities we lived in and in addition I was a damned yankee.  WOW.  I laughed, but it was easier for me because we were military, not likely to be there more than a few years.

I felt the south would eventually change, but it seems to have influenced the other three quarters of the country instead of the majority influencing it.  

Candace is a breath of fresh air during the discussion.  I’m worried for her.
Hopefully she knows what she’s doing when she pokes the truth at people.

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I don't see the US in general being more racist now vs in the past.  I do see more things being attributed to racism that have nothing to do with racism.  Hell, facts themselves are being called, 'racist'.

If facts are now racist then everything is racist.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken

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Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu

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The race card is played in detrimental ways.  So stupid, and yet effective  enough to keep playing.

I was hopeful DNA would put it to rest, but despite the truth perception is everything and sinister uses are made of race.

Wait, didn’t we have a similar discussion where you were inclined toward a stereotype because your experience seemed to prove it?

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Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu

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Stereotypes are based in facts... that's why they are stereotypes.

stereotypenoun [ C ]
us
                  
               /ˈster·i·əˌtɑɪp/  disapproving
 an idea that is used to describe a particular type of person or thing, or a person or thing thought to represent such an idea

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken

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Rank：TAE Member Score：19447 Posts：17177 From：USA Register：12/03/2008 3:25 AM	Date Posted：04/12/2019 4:12 PMCopy HTML So a rep from California attempted the usual shenanigans at a hearing on 'hate' crimes... whatever the hell a 'hate' crime is. Candace Owens, once she was given opportunity to respond, carved him a new arsehole. She then went on to eviscerate the Democrat party in general. It was a thing of beauty. Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Rank：TAE Member Score：1768 Posts：1528 From：USA Register：12/10/2008 12:41 AM	Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu Date Posted：04/21/2019 11:13 PMCopy HTML I hear Sowell in some of what she says. Gotta love her Grandfather for raising her the equal of anyone, leaving out the fear of everyone white. Connecticut is north. I have a hard time with her characterizing Philadelphia because I went through bootcamp with a black woman from there, the equal of anyone in our platoon, who only feared, because of what she had heard, whites in Richmond VA. 1963. Feels like the south has risen, and not in a good way, if whites like that are in Philly. But then, I was shocked by the Newark riots. I rode there on my bicycle from Elizabeth and never sensed any racial tension, just people of many colors. Certainly not like the experience of the south. We were warned by friends in California that the south had made them racists, well, we were ashamed of them for that, and didn’t change who we were because the south really was different just as they claimed, race and knowing your place saturated the communities we lived in and in addition I was a damned yankee. WOW. I laughed, but it was easier for me because we were military, not likely to be there more than a few years. I felt the south would eventually change, but it seems to have influenced the other three quarters of the country instead of the majority influencing it. Candace is a breath of fresh air during the discussion. I’m worried for her. Hopefully she knows what she’s doing when she pokes the truth at people.
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Rank：TAE Member Score：19447 Posts：17177 From：USA Register：12/03/2008 3:25 AM	Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu Date Posted：04/24/2019 4:29 AMCopy HTML I don't see the US in general being more racist now vs in the past. I do see more things being attributed to racism that have nothing to do with racism. Hell, facts themselves are being called, 'racist'. If facts are now racist then everything is racist. Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Rank：TAE Member Score：1768 Posts：1528 From：USA Register：12/10/2008 12:41 AM	Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu Date Posted：04/26/2019 6:05 PMCopy HTML The race card is played in detrimental ways. So stupid, and yet effective enough to keep playing. I was hopeful DNA would put it to rest, but despite the truth perception is everything and sinister uses are made of race. Wait, didn’t we have a similar discussion where you were inclined toward a stereotype because your experience seemed to prove it?
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Rank：TAE Member Score：19447 Posts：17177 From：USA Register：12/03/2008 3:25 AM	Re：Candace Owens vs. Lieu Date Posted：04/26/2019 11:28 PMCopy HTML Stereotypes are based in facts... that's why they are stereotypes. stereotypenoun [ C ] us /ˈster·i·əˌtɑɪp/ disapproving an idea that is used to describe a particular type of person or thing, or a person or thing thought to represent such an idea Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken