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Date Posted:01/17/2019 6:04 PMCopy HTML



Tiananmen Square is hardly mentioned, the man unidentified in China’s textbooks, so it’s odd they complain about Japan’s texts not mentioning Pearl Harbor.  


This is among the most poignant pictures ever taken. 


Censorship is bad for people, but very good for government.  Then again, a good government can be brought down by the opposition with freedom of the press.  Someone has to wear a white hat when that happens.  


To know where the animosity comes from, look at what’s being taught and who’s teaching it.  We have our own missing chapters:  everything you learned in school is false.   How terrible is that?  Misinformation.  Disinformation.  And no information.

What goes around, comes around.
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Re:China doing it their way....

Date Posted:01/18/2019 6:33 AMCopy HTML

I think there was a photo in your post but it did not come through.


Your points are well made and I believe they are right.  It appears few in 'authority' can be trusted any more.  I suspected such was happening when PBS and the Discovery channel started programs about ghosts and other such nonsense.


Anyway, here is a video from some folks who have traveled and lived in China.  What they say matches what I have seen in my limited time and travels there.


 

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Date Posted:01/24/2019 4:35 PMCopy HTML

Thanks......had no idea about some of that. Met an architect who detested China’s visual appeal...kinda shocking but if it’s crumbling, understandable. I didn’t like like the city scapes, but not being an expert can’t really explain why. In the picture which showed when I checked but isn’t there now... I love the guy standing, knowing his country, the one in his mind anyway, wouldn’t run over him. And I love the one in the tank who stopped for him, possibly because the country he served, in his mind, wouldn’t run over its own people. It’s an even better picture when I think of it that way as well as the defiant moment the media chose to emphasize. There’s an old photo of a man, fists ready, facing an enormous tidal wave on the big island of Hawaii. Love him too, but his is an inevitable defeat by nature while the guy facing off with an anonymous someone in a tank is possibly a victory of sorts. Crushing government force is usually temporary because people Rule.
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Date Posted:01/26/2019 12:15 AMCopy HTML

Again, the picture isn’t there.....
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Tank Man by Jeff Widener
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Tank Man

  • Jeff Widener
  • 1989

On the morning of June 5, 1989, photographer Jeff Widener was perched on a sixth-floor balcony of the Beijing Hotel. It was a day after the Tiananmen Square massacre, when Chinese troops attacked pro-democracy demonstrators camped on the plaza, and the Associated Press sent Widener to document the aftermath. As he photographed bloody victims, passersby on bicycles and the occasional scorched bus, a column of tanks began rolling out of the plaza. Widener lined up his lens just as a man carrying shopping bags stepped in front of the war machines, waving his arms and refusing to move.

The tanks tried to go around the man, but he stepped back into their path, climbing atop one briefly. Widener assumed the man would be killed, but the tanks held their fire. Eventually the man was whisked away, but not before Widener immortalized his singular act of resistance. Others also captured the scene, but Widener’s image was transmitted over the AP wire and appeared on front pages all over the world. Decades after Tank Man became a global hero, he remains unidentified. The anonymity makes the photograph all the more universal, a symbol of resistance to unjust regimes everywhere.


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On the morning of June 5, 1989, photographer Jeff Widener was perched on a sixth-floor balcony of the Beijing Hotel. It was a day after the Tiananmen Square massacre, when Chinese troops attacked pro-democracy demonstrators camped on the plaza, and the Associated Press sent Widener to document the aftermath. As he photographed bloody victims, passersby on bicycles and the occasional scorched bus, a column of tanks began rolling out of the ­plaza. Widener lined up his lens just as a man carrying shopping bags stepped in front of the war machines, waving his arms and refusing to move. The tanks tried to go around the man, but he stepped back into their path, climbing atop one briefly. Widener assumed the man would be killed, but the tanks held their fire. Eventually the man was whisked away, but not before Widener immortalized his singular act of resistance. Others also captured the scene, but Widener’s image was transmitted over the AP wire and appeared on front pages all over the world. Decades after Tank Man became a global hero, he remains unidentified. The anonymity makes the photograph all the more universal, a symbol of resistance to unjust regimes everywhere.
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If al else fails......again: http://100photos.time.com/photos/jeff-widener-tank-man#photograph The link doesn’t look like it will work.....oh well.
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