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because.......reasons......

To sum it what he said "yeah, she totally broke the law, and anyone else who did the same would face charges and at least would certainly have their security clearances revoked......but you can't charge members of the Royal Family with crimes.  By her very act of doing something, it make it legal during the time that she's doing it." 


http://www.politico.com/blogs/james-comey-testimony/2016/07/clinton-untrue-statements-fbi-comey-225216


FBI Director James Comey confirmed on Thursday that some of Hillary Clinton's statements and explanations about her email server to the House Benghazi Committee last October were not true, as evidenced by the bureau's investigation into whether she mishandled classified information.

During an extended exchange with Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), Comey affirmed that the FBI's investigation found information marked classified on her server even after Clinton had said that she had neither sent nor received any items marked classified.

"That is not true," Comey said. "There were a small number of portion markings on, I think, three of the documents."

Asked whether Clinton's testimony that she did not email "any classified material to anyone on my email" and "there is no classified material" was true, Comey responded, "No, there was classified material emailed."

"Secretary Clinton said she used one device. Was that true?" Gowdy asked, to which Comey answered, "She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as secretary of state."

Gowdy then asked whether it was true that Clinton, as she said, returned all work-related emails to the State Department.

"No, we found work-related emails, thousands that were not returned," Comey said.

"Secretary Clinton said neither she or anyone else deleted work-related emails from her personal account. Was that true?" Gowdy asked.

"That's a harder one to answer," Comey responded. "We found traces of work-related emails in, on devices or in slack space. Whether they were deleted or whether when a server changed out something happened to them, there is no doubt that the work-related emails that were removed electronically from the email system."

Gowdy asked whether Clintons' lawyers read every one of her emails as she had said. Comey replied, "No."

"In interest of time, because I have a plane to catch tomorrow afternoon, I'm not going to go through anymore of the false statements but I am going to ask you put on your old hat. False exculpatory statements, they are used for what?" Gowdy inquired.


Comey responded, "Either for the substantive prosecution or for evidence of intent in a criminal prosecution."

"Exactly. Intent and consciousness of guilt, right? Is that right?" Gowdy asked. "Consciousness of guilt and intent. In your old job you would prove intent as you just referenced by showing the jury evidence of a complex scheme that was designed for the very purpose of concealing the public record, and you would be arguing in addition to concealment the destruction that you and I just talked about, or certainly the failure to preserve. Would you argue all that under heading of content--intent. You would also be arguing the pervasiveness of the scheme, when it started, when it ended and number of emails, whether they were originally classified or up-classified, you would argue all of that under the heading of intent. You would also probably under common scheme or plan argue the burn bags of daily calendar entries or the missing daily calendar entries as a common scheme or plan to conceal. Two days ago, director, you said a reasonable person in her should have known a private email is no place to send and receive classified information. You're right."

"An average person does know not to do that. This is no average person," Gowdy said. "This is a former first lady, a former United States senator, and a former secretary of state that the president now contends is the most competent, qualified person to be president since Jefferson. He didn't say that in '08 but he says it now. She affirmatively rejected efforts to give her a state.gov account. She kept these private emails for almost two years and only turned them over to Congress because we found out she had a private email account."

He continued, "So you have a rogue email system set up before she took the oath of office. Thousands of what we now know to be classified emails, some of which were classified at the time. One of her more frequent email comrades was in fact hacked, and you don't know whether or not she was. And this scheme took place over a long period of time and resulted in the destruction of public records yet you say there is insufficient evidence of intent."

"You say careless but not intentionally. You and I both know intent is really difficult to prove," Gowdy continued. "Very rarely do defendants announce, 'On this date I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this date.' It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence, or if you're Congress and you realize how difficult it is to prove specific intent, you will formulate a statute that allows for gross negligence."

Remarking that his time had expired, Gowdy said he still feared that there was no precedent for criminal prosecution for future cases similar to Clinton.

"And my real fear is this, this is what [Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah)] touched upon, this double tracked justice system rightly or wrong hey perceived this country, that if you are a private in the Army and you email yourself classified information, you will be kicked out but if you are Hillary Clinton and you seek a promotion to commander-in-chief, you will not be," Gowdy concluded. "So what I hope you can do today is help the average person, the reasonable person you made reference to, the reasonable person understand, why she appears to be treated differently than the rest of us would be."




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 I guess that Bush, Colin Powell, and Conoleezza Rice all get a pass for their use of private email?
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 If "Bush did it" is the standard we are going to use from now on, we might as well give up. 
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Yes, the Fix Was In
These columns have repeatedly pointed out that the decision whether to indict Hillary Clinton for mishandling classified information was not the FBI’s call. It was up to the Obama Justice Department, which was in the tank for Mrs. Clinton and was taking direction from President Obama. In April 2016, Obama publicly stated that he did not want his party’s inevitable nominee charged with a crime.

In making that assertion, Obama distorted the Espionage Act, falsely implying that it required proof of intent to harm the United States before someone could be convicted of mishandling classified information. To the contrary, the law holds that a person is guilty (1) if she willfully causes the unauthorized transmission of classified information — meaning if she understands the wrongfulness of the action and intentionally performs it anyway — or (2) if through “gross negligence” she permits the information to be removed from its proper place or to be otherwise mishandled (see Section 793(d), (e), and (f) of Title 18, U.S. Code). The Justice Department adopted Obama’s erroneous intent standard, as, ultimately, did Comey.

The former director’s statements in the Brett Baier interview firmly establish that the decision not to indict Mrs. Clinton was based on Obama Justice Department standards, not on the terms of the statute.

For example, when asked why he was confident, long before Clinton was even interviewed, that she would not be charged, Comey said the investigators working the case told him, “Look boss, on the current course and speed, it looks like it’s not gonna get to a place where the prosecutors would bring it.” It was not that the evidence was insufficient under the law; it was that the Justice Department would not indict.

Baier then played a now-familiar recording of Comey, under questioning by Representative Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.), conceding that Clinton had made various false claims about her emails (no emails “marked ‘classified,’” no classified emails sent or stored, all work-related emails returned to the State Department). Baier then asked why, despite this pattern, Comey had made his decision against charges even before Clinton was questioned. While denying that he had made a final decision at that point, he said he had a “general sense” that the evidence was “unlikely to get us to a place where they would prosecute at the Justice Department.

Cont... Comey Confirms: In Clinton Emails Caper, the Fix Was In

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Deep State Interference In other words, Clinton's clear reckless negligence itself warranted charges. But because of Comey, Andrew McCabe, and others at the FBI and Justice Department, she was never charged. Instead, they used charges contained in an unverified dossier financed by Hillary Clinton to begin their relentless pursuit of Donald Trump. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/fbi-officials-wanted-to-charge-hillary-clinton-turns-out-they-should-have/
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Good to see your nic, Punkoidragon! Isn’t Hillary political history? Why care that she pays for her “crimes” .........she is so well punished by losing the election the charges so effectively stole from her......not to mention the Electoral College ignoring the popular vote. Is she still a threat? Seems politically toxic to me. Who wants to have lunch with her? Bernie has his hat in the ring......popular, but he’s too old and like McCain, people wish he had won the earlier campaign.
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She's entertaining running again.


Plus, I admit to a certain amount of satisfaction at having been right about the Clintons since they came onto the national stage.

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She's entertaining ..........


Not last time, she just was not.  Maybe next time she will just be so grotesque that everyone will have a laugh.

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Given the way we treat politicians, the best stay home or behind the scenes where frustration rules their day. People are great before the election, all smiles and handshakes and got your back. Once elected, all that disappears. They are still behind you, but so far back, you can’t see them. They hate politicians and now that includes you. Go figure. The Clintons came out of nowhere and I wish they would go back. They were in position and I hope they reflect everyday on how they wasted it on self indulgence. What the heck kind of college education did they receive? Real world versus the world as it should be.......most politicians seem to lose sight of that, push it to tomorrow instead of doing today what needs to be done for tomorrow to be any different. Just a step, an inch......would be fine........eventually. Venting......complete for now.
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Well done!


As time goes buy the the clinton machine grinds to a halt, the truth will continue to surface and history will record them as grotesque, reprehensible and corrupt to the core.

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Richard the Lionhearted got great press and still does. King John is still the most detested, and yet, he kept England afloat after Richard depleted the Treasury fighting glorious battles in foreign countries. Many of John’s necessary administrative innovations are still in use today. The English are so proud of their Navy, but no one mentions John who initiated it. He signed the Magna Carta and is derided for it, and yet, though it was never truly followed even by the Barons who forced it on him, it’s a source of English pride. Most of the horrors people emphasize about John were typical of kings they adored, so what’s up with poor John? The best chroniclers had passed away by time he was crowned, according to his biographer, W. L. Warren. History won’t have much to say about the Clintons, just juicy asides before moving discourse to administrations with more lasting impact on the country. They’ll move from books to articles to pages to paragraphs to sentences and into near oblivion as do most politicians who fail to make the country shine as most people want to see it.
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Then it is even more important that we keep the truth about them alive and do our best to keep such filth from ever rising again.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Perhaps.  The emphasis concerns me when a 15 year old girl comes home from a history lesson on Sherman’s March and attacks me for being a damned Yankee when my folks weren’t even here during the Civil War.  True for my Mom’s side, not even close for Dad’s.......well, none of them served under Sherman.  I just didn’t know at the time, not that it made any difference to my friend’s 15 year who she had to send to her room. Emphasis on the Clintons and their vile ilk casts a shadow on how we can feel about ourselves as Americans, a slippery slope to dissolving the country.  Emphasis on how we caught the bastards, made their lives miserable in a variety of ways leaves us some dignity. Nonetheless, I am annoyed to discover all the sugar coating and outright omissions of essential histories like the fruit company interests of a member of Eisenhower’s administration that took out the President of Mexico for beneficial programs he was implementing that might compete with his company.  I’d like to know if that can still happen or safeguards are in place to prevent or prosecute the selfish bastards. Should probably google that.... I agree with you about keeping truth alive.  I enjoy classical music and don’t really care that Mozart was such a bastard.  Love the country, don’t care for how some of its leaders have operated.  Good that Alaska was made part of it though known as Seward’s folly for quite awhile.  Then there’s how we took Hawaii, not fair, and yet some country was going to, good it was us after England gave it back. Just set aside the book, The Heart of Everything That Is, because the harsh reality of what the Sioux warriors had practiced for hundreds of years on other Tribes was put to use on our Civil War veterans whose memories of the Roman Colliseum, the barbarities of the Crusades, and dungeons of the Inquisition had long since faded. Mine was a noble savage introduction to the Tribes, very James Fenimore Cooper.  By college, everything we European invaders, (we were no longer Americans) did was wrong, inexcusable.  So, imagine my dismay at discovering Red Cloud’s place in our history.  To get good grades and find out the education was false.....damn it!   

From The Heart of Everything That Is:  “ The Plains Indians had honed their war ethic for centuries, and their martial logic was notoriously fairly straight forward, both accepted by all tribes without challenge - no quarter asked, none given; to every enemy, death, the slower and more excruciating the better. ... Women of all ages were tortured to death, but not before being raped - unless they were young enough to be raped and then taken as captive slaves or hostages to be traded....  Crying babies were a burden on the trail, so they were summarily killed..... “.   What happened to counting coup?


Counting coup was the winning of prestige against an enemy by the Plains Indians of North America. Warriors won prestige by acts of bravery in the face of the enemy, which could be recorded in various ways and retold as stories. Any blow struck against the enemy counted as a coup, but the most prestigious acts included touching an enemy warrior with the hand, bow, or coup stick and escaping unharmed.[1][2] Touching the first enemy to die in battle or touching the enemy's defensive works also counted as coup,[1] as did, in some tribes, simply riding up to an enemy, touching him with a short stick, and riding away unscathed.[3]Counting coup could also involve stealing an enemy's weapons or horses tied up to his lodge in camp.[1] Risk of injury or death was required to count coup.[ (from Wikipedia) Apparently, my education was one sided.....so annoying!

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Indeed.


I was indoctrinated in the 'noble savage' nonsense, too.  It flew in the face of what I knew to be true because I knew natives in Oregon and in Alaska.  Neither they nor their ancestors were any more or less 'noble' than anyone else and today remain a deeply, possibly fatally, flawed group of people.  We do them no favors with this nonsense re-writing of history portraying them as angels destroyed by demons.

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"...it is inexplicable that Clinton has not been indicted.

Her lawlessness first made headlines 25 years ago, when she admitted that her cattle-futures broker had defied odds of one in 31 trillion by investing $1,000 from her trading account and returning a profit of nearly $100,000. Clinton failed to report about $6,500 in profits to the IRS. She initially lied about her investment windfall by claiming she made the wagers herself. She even fantastically alleged that she mastered cattle-futures trading by reading financial newspapers.

To paraphrase Clinton herself, anyone else would have been indicted for far less.

The reason that foreign oligarchs are no longer donating millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, and that Bill Clinton is not being offered $500,000 for speaking appearances in Moscow, is simply that Hillary Clinton is not secretary of state. She is no longer in a public position to hector her colleagues into approving pro-Russian commercial deals, such as the one that gave Russian interests access to North American uranium.

As secretary of state, Clinton also sidestepped the law by setting up a home-brewed email server. She transmitted classified documents over this insecure route and lied about it. And she destroyed some 30,000 emails that were in effect under subpoena. Anyone else would have been indicted for far less.

In truth, Clinton was at the heart of the entire Russian-collusion hoax. Even after the election, she kept fueling it in order to blame Trump–Russia conspiracies for her stunning defeat in 2016. Unable to acknowledge her own culpability as a weak and uninspiring candidate, Clinton formally joined the post-election “resistance” and began whining about collusion. That excuse seemed preferable to explaining why she had blown a huge lead and lost despite favorable media coverage and superior funding."


cont... https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/hillary-clinton-fears-indictment/


There is still hope, it seems.  Slowly, ever so slowly, the truth is coming out about the clintons.

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