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Date Posted：08/04/2019 6:20 PMCopy HTML Somewhere in a thread long, long ago I mentioned being Christened Methodist because Mom, a Roman Catholic, Irish, with priests and nuns for generations vowed never to raise a child as a Catholic.. She, being divorced, excommunicated herself, (nothing official was ever done) but she was still drawn to the church: every now and then I would see her enter without her seeing me. Her faith and its hold on her remains a mystery. When I was a year old, Dad said to her, “ I don’t love you anymore, so pack your things and the baby’s.....I’m taking you to my sister’s. She never had anything good to say about him, and he never said anything bad about her. Obviously, I was unwittingly raised Catholic because what else did she know? Beyond a failed attempt to have me attend a Catholic school in kindergarten, she never suggested any formal training in her faith, she lived it alone. My husband, a devout Catholic, an Altar boy, was unable to take Confirmation for some inexplicable reason. And, he refused to ask me to raise our children as Catholic. Wise man, that would have been a deal breaker, hesitant as I was to ever marry. Given all the divorces in my family, I figured we were difficult people to live with so why bother? Given those two wayward Catholics, I’m guessing that without the Catholic institution’s formal teachings I may be more Catholic than any other faith. And yet, The Age of Reason makes perfect sense. So, that leaves my spiritual life......oddly out of sorts. I’m uncomfortable with my husband’s Milesian ancestors because they conquered the Tuatha de Danann with which I have a strong affinity....Morrigan and all, far more than St Patrick who burned books. Books are nearly sacred to me because they are the minds at work of people. So, a Library is full of lives represented by the books on its shelves. Buddhism is refreshing for women tired of the patriarchy. Mary Magdalene was shunned out of her rightful place in the Catholic Church by the jealous Peter, the rock! My children are good people, tolerant of all faiths, except maybe Islam, now. I tell them if they look at religion as a means for large groups of people to survive it’s easier to accept all faiths because most of them teach their followers how to be better people and get along with others. So, what is the origin of Catholicism? or any other faith? Christianity is an important world religion that stems from the life, teachings, and death of Jesus. Roman Catholicism is the largest of the three major branches of Christianity. Thus, all Roman Catholics are Christian, but not all Christians are Roman Catholic. Of the estimated 2.3 billion Christians in the world, about 1.3 billion of them are Roman Catholics. Broadly, Roman Catholicism differs from other Christian churches and denominations in its beliefs about the sacraments, the roles of the Bible and tradition, the importance of the Virgin Mary and the saints, and the papacy. What goes around, comes around.
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/08/2019 8:17 AMCopy HTML Maybe you'll enjoy this. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/10/2019 11:29 PMCopy HTML Thank you.
I did enjoy it.
The Age of Reason is always in my head and comforting, but The Laws of the Sun, despite frequent Buddha references, a bit frighteningly restores God within. Mostly, jJohn Milton’s Paradise Lost, “sufficient to stand and free to fall” beautifully explains the ways of God to me, and I accept the responsibility.
The Bible as not just a collection of stories, but a whole that speaks beyond its authors, editors, and interpretations is fresh.
Freud, Marx, and Nietzche......the people who quote them tend to be anathema to me, but this guy Peterson uses them well in his quest.
The answer is, there is no answer.
Nothing has to mean anything.
While ending discussion these quips are despicable.
I look forward to his other videos, curiously.
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/14/2019 7:12 AMCopy HTML He brought be back to Christianity, in it's many forms. Curiously, one of the things I remember him saying is that the meaning of life is, at it's most fundamental, is 'avoiding pain'. It was, for me, yet another 'Peterson moment, where he says something so obviously true that it leaves me gobsmacked that I'd never heard it uttered aloud nor thought of it myself. The meaning of life is the avoidance of pain. What people say... doesn't matter. What people actually do is where truth can be found. That is, by no means, all there is. We build on top of that most fundamental of all things. Knowing what pain is, most of us avoid it and also attempt to shield others from it. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/15/2019 5:14 PMCopy HTML “...and also attempt to shield others from it.”
Such a wonder, that impulse. You didn’t even qualify it with someone you care about, just simply went with “others”.
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/20/2019 8:10 PMCopy HTML Indeed. The impulse isn't limited to our species, either. It's just that on the whole, we have sufficient strength and resources to routinely protect and aid not only others of our species but also individuals of entirely different species. Or maybe it's just the critters can't post on facebook and youtube, their heroic acts? Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/25/2019 2:31 AMCopy HTML It’s a mystery.
I hate needles, the drawing of blood, the sight of it makes me turn white, lose my hearing, and have to sit down to recover.....and yet I donate blood because we’re at war.
One time, on a cruise the Captain’s announcement that a passenger was in critical condition and needed O positive blood so bring please bring your card to Deck 2, moved me out of the line for dinner and into an elevator of volunteers without thinking about it. Had no idea I was that kind of person. Until such opportunities, I guess we don’t know who we are.
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：08/26/2019 5:42 AMCopy HTML This put into my mind the leech scene in the movie, 'The African Queen', for some reason. Bogart is in a swamp, pulling his boat. He gets out of the water when it gets deep enough and discovers he's covered with leeches. Bogart acted this scene out so well; the absolute horror and revulsion came through loud and clear and that was bad enough. They soon came to shallow water again. He had to go back in. The look of dread he had was just gut wrenching. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：Never talk about religion..... Date Posted：09/05/2019 8:02 PMCopy HTML Bogart became a different person, but who wouldn’t become a different person in the presence of Katherine?
Joined Classmates.com as a free member 8 years ago, so I knew people were visiting my profile, leaving comments and sending emails, but not who or what they wrote. Annoyed, I created a Facebook group, but few joined and those who did were not from my class. One member, for lack of participation, tried to end the group and advertised his as a better option. Sweet guy. Anyway, I closed the group, renamed it specifically for my high school class, deleted and blocked all others, and started posting graduation photos, majors, mottos, and activities of each member of the class......just one or two per day, so it’s not a chore.
It’s kind of wonderful to focus on their high school selves, according to the yearbook, and read their written comments to me, remember their facial expressions, even their names evoke a burst of youth.
Their religion or lack of one are sometimes evident, but it really didn’t matter at the time because the common enemy: teachers, brought us all together in a struggle for education.
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