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Date Posted:11/28/2013 1:30 PMCopy HTML

The FBI has been running an international and multi-departmental hunt for children being held as sex slaves.  That's a pretty righteous and laudable goal, is it not?  I mean, that's the sort of thing I would like to think my tax dollars are going toward... rather than most of what my tax money actually goes for.

When I first heard of the Innocence Lost Project, I thought that would be the sort of law enforcement job I could actually be proud of being part of.  Even visited USAJobs to check out the FBI's recruitment criteria before my natural cynicism re-asserted itself and shut that down.

One of the benefits of being a cynical bastard, especially when it comes to all things Federal, is that I'm rarely disappointed.  Actually, 'rarely' isn't the right word.  "Never".  I'm never disappointed.  The feds have never failed to live down to my expectations.

While looking into the Innocence Lost Project, I was expecting to find a lot rescues in Thailand, India, Cambodia, the Phillippines... you know the places.  Everyone knows the places.

Not what I found.  Instead, I found the same old vicious, corrupt crap.  Yes, no doubt there were a few rescues that would fit rational, reasonable expectations.  Most, however, did not.  I'll let Maggie McNeil, a self-described 'retired whore', take it from here...  it's well worth the read, I assure you.

http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/reading-between-the-lines/

Back already?  Ms. McNeil is a prolific writer, you can find more of her work here:  http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/.  Given that I know quite a few 'street level' prostitutes, I hope you will believe me when I say that Ms. McNeil's words ring true... she's the real deal.  Quite a bit more articulate than those I work with but I've spotted no hits of b.s. in what I've read from her.

She's also pretty spot on about how law enforcement misleads or manipulates language to make one thing seem like another.  I do it, myself, when writing reports... to some extent.  Not to obfuscate or deny something something I've done or not done... more to put a 'professional polish' on something that is, by it's nature, often violent and grubby.   Her view of that from the outside looks pretty spot on, too.

Another interesting view from the Dark Side from Ms. Joanna Chiu: http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2010/11/08/sex-work-craigslist/

There was an arrest a few days ago in Anchorage, a two legged rodent took cellphone video of himself finger fucking a three year old girl.  http://www.ktva.com/home/top-stories/-Anchorage-man-arrested-for-producing-possessing-child-pornography-233041311.html

And that's awesome, that appears to be an example of the good guys catching the bad guy and bringing it to justice and doing so without sullying themselves in the process.  That's how it appears for the moment.  Hope I'm not disappointed.

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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/04/2013 12:56 PMCopy HTML

AK, none of us are self-sufficient, especially government workers. We call it civilization. I have to agree with Katie on this one, we are much better off today than we were way back when. Some parts of Libertarianism are good, but as a whole it is not "doable."

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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

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Reply to tommytalldog (12/04/2013 3:56 AM)

AK, none of us are self-sufficient, especially government workers. We call it civilization. I have to agree with Katie on this one, we are much better off today than we were way back when. Some parts of Libertarianism are good, but as a whole it is not "doable."

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I'm not a Libertarian.

Nor am I suggesting we live in North Korea.

I'm saying what we have now is going to explode because the design of it leaves no other option.

The feds and local law enforcement shaking down prostitutes and johns on the pretence of searching for child sex slaves is one symptom of an underlaying malady.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/04/2013 1:01 PMCopy HTML

Yeppir, people do confuse the message with the messenger. That usually has to do with the delivery of the message by the messenger.
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/04/2013 1:04 PMCopy HTML

Reply to alaskaone (12/04/2013 7:01 AM)

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AK, none of us are self-sufficient, especially government workers. We call it civilization. I have to agree with Katie on this one, we are much better off today than we were way back when. Some parts of Libertarianism are good, but as a whole it is not "doable."

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I'm not a Libertarian.

Nor am I suggesting we live in North Korea.

I'm saying what we have now is going to explode because the design of it leaves no other option.

The feds and local law enforcement shaking down prostitutes and johns on the pretence of searching for child sex slaves is one symptom of an underlaying malady.


You mean you don't believe the local PD using radar is to make the streets safer for all of us, rather than a revenue source?

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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

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Reply to tommytalldog (12/04/2013 4:04 AM)

You mean you don't believe the local PD using radar is to make the streets safer for all of us, rather than a revenue source?

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It's both... that's the structural flaw in local law enforcement.

Anchorage PD is complaining that they need more troops and they justify this by pointing to average response times to 911 calls.

Sure, when I call 911 because there's a lunatic busting down my door, I'd like a prompt response.  At the same time, a prompt response would be more likely were APD not busy harrassing prostitutes, pot heads and people driving 10 mph over the speed limit.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/04/2013 1:21 PMCopy HTML

Well, our own New York State Police have just released the count of tickets issued over the recent Thanksgiving holiday. Over 1500 citations written all in a valiant effort to make our highways & byways safer for families visiting Grandma's house for the annual festivities. I for one felt a lot safer.
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/04/2013 1:34 PMCopy HTML

Said the ironic t-dog.
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/09/2013 3:46 AMCopy HTML

Another example of systemic corruption within law enforcement.  This time, our beloved ATF.


ATF agents befriended mentally disabled people to drum up business and later arrested them in at least four cities in addition to Milwaukee. In Wichita, Kan., ATF agents referred to a man with a low IQ as "slow-headed" before deciding to secretly use him as a key cog in their sting. And agents in Albuquerque, N.M., gave a brain-damaged drug addict with little knowledge of weapons a "tutorial" on machine guns, hoping he could find them one.
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-uses-rogue-tactics-in-storefront-stings-across-the-nation-b99146765z1-234916641.html

Anchorage police dept. is asking for more officers based upon their average response times to 911 calls.  This is a pretty poor way of deciding how many officers a city needs.  A far better measure would be to have a look at how many shakedowns are going on.  Arresting prostitutes and pot heads are shakedowns.  Speeding tickets where there are no aggrivating factors... shakedowns.  Entrapment as described above.... shakedown.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/09/2013 4:04 AMCopy HTML

They set up a sting shop and 36 were arrested including gang members and ex felons trafficking weapons which 77 illegal weapons were confiscated, illegal drugs which were being sold to kids and ID theft charges, your problem?
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You believe, then, the ends justifies the means?

INFORMATION NOT RELEASED

The ATF has refused to release its internal investigation into the failures of its flawed Fearless Distributing sting in Milwaukee. The report has been sought by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and members of Congress since its completion earlier this year.

The internal review was launched after a Journal Sentinel investigation revealed numerous foul-ups in the operation. For nine months, the ATF also has refused to provide any documents to the Journal Sentinel, which has filed a dozen requests under the federal Freedom of Information Act, including the cost of the operations and rules on agents keeping guns in their vehicles.

In late November, Department of Justice attorney Anne D. Work affirmed the ATF's position that its entire internal report on the closed Milwaukee operation should be kept secret and not released to the public. Work wrote that releasing the investigation "could reasonably be expected to interfere with (law) enforcement proceedings."
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-uses-rogue-tactics-in-storefront-stings-across-the-nation-b99146765z1-234916641.html

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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

Date Posted:12/09/2013 10:26 PMCopy HTML

Reply to katie5445 (12/02/2013 10:31 AM)

Says who a pissed off prostitute and a blogger, still not impressed. I am for legalization of prostitution by the way.


Would you become one if prostitution was legal?
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

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Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

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Came across this recently, thought I'd resurrect a hijacked thread and share.

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VJRBx0JjM_M" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="355" width="425"></iframe>
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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

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Reply to oldarmybear (12/09/2013 2:26 PM)

Reply to katie5445 (12/02/2013 10:31 AM)

Says who a pissed off prostitute and a blogger, still not impressed. I am for legalization of prostitution by the way.


Would you become one if prostitution was legal?

The video opens with the subject of being degraded, no I would never choose it as I would feel degraded and having sex with multi strange men FOR ME and many other women is gross, for others it is not, it is all about choice.
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I appreciated her point about regulation being yet another form of abuse of sex workers.
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I disagree with that, besides people just might give thought to legal prostitution if there was regulation. These street gals you can get for a tenner could move indoors, start a business,have nice sheets and towels smiley31 get decent money, seems to work well in Amsterdam. I didn't listen to all the video but I had the feeling this woman was not a cheap in a hostile area pickup.
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Do watch the whole thing and see if you don't think her points regarding regulation are valid.
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"The systematic importation of vulnerable young women for sexual abuse, exploitation, and criminal profiteering has been going on for years and it came to a stop this week," Satterberg added. "This is what human trafficking looks like."

But as more information about the case has become available, Satterberg's narrative starts to break down. The reality—as evidenced by police reports, court documents, online records, and statements from those involved—is far less lurid and depraved. Instead of a story of stark abuse and exploitation, it's a story of immigration, economics, the pull of companionship and connection, the structures and dynamism that drive black markets, and a criminal-justice system all too eager to declare women victims of the choices they make.

The Truth About the Biggest U.S. Sex Trafficking Story of the Year

More of the same years later. 


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A measure making prostitution advertising a federal crime passed the House Judiciary Committee this morning.

"This legislation is about more than just Backpage.com," said bill sponsor Rep. Ann Wagner (R-Missouri), promising that the changes would "wreak havoc" on "hundreds of websites."

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Virginia) crowed that the bill "empowers prosecutors with new tools" to hold human traffickers accountable.

But Goodlatte is lying—nothing in the bill addresses penalties for actual human traffickers. Instead, it would allow the government to treat websites and social apps as if they are human traffickers if bad actors should communicate through their digital platforms and tools. (For more about how this would work, see my post from yesterday.) The bill would also make posting or hosting prostitution ads a federal crime.

If H.R. 1865 becomes law, the FBI would be able to prosecute Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, Craigslist, and myriad other sites where sex workers advertise and/or communicate with clients—even if the sexual exchange is only alluded to and never completed.*

cont.... http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/12/federal-sex-ad-ban-passes-judiciary


A cynical bastard, such as myself, would point out that prostitutes who advertise on free website marketplaces generally don't have a lot of money which the government could steal... er, confiscate.  Website companies, in contrast, tend to have significant assets.


Just sayin'

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Re:Propaganda vs. reality, cops vs. prostitutes

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Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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