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I read a book by James Burke called, 'Connections'.  In it, he goes through the history of mankind and examines how one thing leads to the next and the next and the next and reveals how seemingly unrelated events set into motion complex and unpredictable outcomes.  Everything is, literally, connected in some way if you look closely enough.  It shaped my perception of the world in profound ways drilling into my head that life is not a bunch of random events.  Instead, it's an unimaginably complex chain of events, each one having a nearly unknowable number of unpredictable consequences that last through time.

It doesn't seem to be an exaggeration to say there are a whole lot of people looking around our country and wondering, "What the hell is going on?"  Rioting and looting on campus's, blatant attacks upon free speech, tossing boys into the dumpster fire of 3rd wave feminist ideology and using the results to attack the second amendment.  Endless wars, endless debt, a surveillance state docilely welcomed, massive fraud and waste of tax money by all levels of government, 'trigger warnings', denial of basic biology and even logic.  I'm barely scratching the surface of all the nonsense going on.

Over the last year or so, a professor of psychology in Canada has become a world wide phenomena.  Dr. Jordan Peterson took a public stand against a proposed compelled speech law by the Canadian government and against the human rights tribunal tasked with enforcing said compelled speech. 

It's hard to understate the shit-storm launched against him as a result.  As time has passed, I've watched as he has attempted to ferret out what is going on and how.  In a nutshell, here is what he seems to be putting together.

After WWII, the US and USSR entered into a 'cold war'.  Part of that war, KGB agents entered into the US and Canada and began operations.  The US government was aware of this and assumed the agents were sent to engage in espionage.  That was wrong.  They did perform some traditional espionage, of course, but their main goal was to seed marxist ideology into the educational system.

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Senator Joseph McCarthy began his famous witch-hunt in the fifties and that seems to have motivated members of the American Communist and Socialist parties to leave and join the democrats and republicans.  Over the years, the platform of the democrat party began to unabashedly echo the communist manifesto, due to their influence.


The republican platform isn't so brazen but, as we've seen, there is little significant difference between them and the democrats in their real world actions.

Academics and intellectuals have always seemed particularly vulnerable to Marxist ideology.  The influence of the agents of the kgb found fertile ground among them.  The initial result, I think, manifested as the rise of the 1960's radicals.  They, I believe, were the first wave of students taught by the marxism contaminated professors.  Somewhere along the line, the 3rd wave of feminism got on the bandwagon and together, they have taken control of the humanities in the colleges and universities.

Large numbers of the students they taught went on to become public school teachers and administrators, bureaucrats in local, state and federal bureaucracies, and journalists.  

In the 1970's, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn published a book, the Gulag Archipelago, which detailed the lunacy of communism in such a way as to ultimately contribute, in no small part, to the fall of the USSR in 1991.  The book was required reading when I was in high school and it pulled the rug out from under the feet of the adherents of marxism, socialism, fascism and communism in a way that the deaths of tens of millions of people hadn't been able to do. 

The Gulag Archipelago and other works critical of marxism in all its forms appear to have been banished from the lists of required reading in high schools and universities, replaced mainly by works critical of western society, capitalism and white people in general.  I think that should not surprising at all.


Dr. Peterson has named these people, 'post-modern, neo-marxists'.  "Post modernist", because they believe there are no facts. "Neo-Marxist",  because they believe that everything is about power;  oppressor vs. oppressed.  

What we are facing today is roughly two or three generations of people indoctrinated in the marxist world view handed down by those professors in the 1950's.  The STEM fields, however, have been resistant, possibly because of the subject matter.  You can't be an engineer or a doctor and not believe there are facts.

Until Dr. Peterson pulled it all together, who's doing what and how, most of us were just bewildered.  We pointed at (modern)liberals thinking it was them because, well, a lot of their ideas are silly and naive.  (Modern)liberalism/conservatism are symptoms of the disease, not the disease, itself.

If you think about the (modern)liberals/conservatives we've known here, you'll realize most of them were educated in the universities when the 'post-modern, neo-marxists' were first establishing their domination of the humanities.  In other words, the baby boomers were the first wave.

Dr. Peterson has also pointed out that there is no 'grand poo-bah' among the post modernists.  The movement is decentralized and their ideology is nonsensical and emotionally driven, as it would have to be in order to accept identity politics as valid.


That is, near as I figure out, what's going on.  I think Peterson is right.  I've read and watched observations from many other notable figures who seemed to have identified pieces of the puzzle but they didn't manage to
put it all together like Peterson has.

I've read and watched the post modernists actually articulate what they're doing and what their goals are (at least when they are able to articulate that much) and they tend to verify what Peterson has been saying.

I certainly could be wrong but this theory appears to fit and it explains a lot  about what is going on... a cultural war between borg and free men.
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The left in America is founded on the rejection of wisdom. It is possible to be on the left and be kind, honest in business, faithful to one's spouse, etc. But it is not possible to be wise if one subscribes to leftist (as opposed to liberal) ideas.

Last year, Amy Wax, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, co-authored an opinion piece in the Philadelphia Inquirer with a professor from the University of San Diego School of Law in which they wrote that the "bourgeois culture" and "bourgeois norms" that governed America from the end of World War II until the mid-1960s were good for America, and that their rejection has caused much of the social dysfunction that has characterized this country since the 1960s.

Those values included, in their words: "Get married before you have children and strive to stay married for their sake. Get the education you need for gainful employment, work hard, and avoid idleness. Go the extra mile for your employer or client. Be a patriot, ready to serve the country. Be neighborly, civic-minded, and charitable. Avoid coarse language in public. Be respectful of authority. Eschew substance abuse and crime."

Recognizing those norms as universally beneficial constitutes wisdom. Rejection of them constitutes a rejection of wisdom -- i.e. foolishness.

The War on Wisdom

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Re:What seems to be happening

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Reply to alaskaone (05/08/2018 12:02 PM)

There are few people in history, were it possible, I would kill.  Marx is one, keynes another. 

I cannot become so worked up about Keynes.  If we compare how unemployment skyrocketed in 1919/20 but not after 1945 and how the economy crashed in the 30s with it not crashing in 2008/9 Keynes has to take some of the credit.
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Almost all rich countries now have progressive income taxes, universal public education, & laws against child labor..........all things Marx demanded in 1848 in the Communist Manifesto. Ol' Karl ain't all that bad, AK.
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 Not so sure about "Marxists" though..
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Reply to tommytalldog (05/13/2018 6:32 AM)

Almost all rich countries now have progressive income taxes, universal public education, & laws against child labor..........all things Marx demanded in 1848 in the Communist Manifesto. Ol' Karl ain't all that bad, AK.

Marx is all bad, T.  He put together pseudo-intellectual claptrap that led to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people and world wide destruction that is still occurring at this very moment.
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There are few people in history, were it possible, I would kill.  Marx is one, keynes another. 

I cannot become so worked up about Keynes.  If we compare how unemployment skyrocketed in 1919/20 but not after 1945 and how the economy crashed in the 30s with it not crashing in 2008/9 Keynes has to take some of the credit.

I can only agree that Keynes deserves the credit for the great depression;  how severe it got and how long it lasted.  Without his pernicious ideology, it would have been over likely in less than 2 years.
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Peterson is going after the humanities depts up in Canada, says he aims to reduce enrollment by 75%.  Mr. Haidt is taking another approach in the US.  He's creating a website that ranks universities from best to worst, contacting alumni and giving them the website.
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Now, reasonable people can differ about whether academia, as the ancestral home of white guilt, has been overzealous at micromanaging outcomes. Significant race-based preferences remain widespread, and lawsuits continue to be filed by white and Asian students who feel they bore the brunt of academia’s attempt to realize its vision of a utopian society in which minorities are represented at demographically correct levels. Eyebrows also raise at the way in which black students may be acculturated upon their arrival: ironically, some colleges “ghetto-ize” incoming minorities by creating for them separate advising systems, housing, academic tracks, and even graduation ceremonies. Still, it’s hard to dispute the wholesomeness of the mindset from which such tokens of affirmative action spring.

And yet wholesome is not the word that comes to mind when one assesses the newest wrinkle in academia’s attempt to balance the scales: an all-out, unapologetic assault on ‘whiteness’ itself. Today’s college administrators increasingly frame diversity and inclusion as lessons that must be learned by whites alone—and they’re lessons that too often unfold as interventions that force whites to regard themselves less as full partners in diversity than an obstacle to be overcome so that other constituencies might thrive. (This flows from another favored academic trope, the concept of the zero-sum society, wherein white success necessarily comes at the expense of non-white failure.) Colleges require the injection of units—if not whole introductory courses—on diversity in major subject areas “from physics to forestry,” as the Atlantic put it, and syllabi confirm the prevailing view of whiteness as something of an anachronistic disease that, like cholera, has no place in modern life.

Cont... Is There Room in Diversity For White People?

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Peterson puts it together
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This is an essay about how professors pressure students into towing the line...
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i am on the left but don't hate jordan. he has a keen mind. enjoy hearing his take on things even though i may disagree with what he is saying.
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I doubt you're, 'on the left', Knightly.  "The left" is no longer merely (modern)liberals.

The left is the postmodern neomarxist types and if you were one, you wouldn't know anything about peterson because you wouldn't have listened to a single thing he said.  And you wouldn't read anything that has too many polysyllabic words.
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 i liked him when he was part of a debate. didn't care for him when he gave lectures. don't care for lectures much.
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 i liked him when he was part of a debate. didn't care for him when he gave lectures. don't care for lectures much.

That must have made your time in school and university rather difficult.


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Here is a manifestation outside of universities, of 'what seems to be happening'.  It doesn't matter what your innate talent may be nor how hard you work.  All that matters is the color of your skin.
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It sorta fits here...

 

From what I've been reading and studying, it's been an odd sort of evolution. If I understand correctly, Marx was coming at his ideas from a perspective of the eventual, inevitable revolution that was eventually going to stem from the grossly unequal distribution of wealth. He was basically trying to come up with a system that would prevent another revolution if implemented after the one that he and his peers fully believed was to come. Later "theory" was all about figuring out why the stupid little people never rose up to kill all of the ruling classes. Also, philosophy was sort of running out of ways to refine and build on itself as was instead turning to criticism. It started tearing out the certainty of truth and questioning instead if one could ever even know if truth existed. I can't get a handle on it all, but science in every field was quickly and constantly tearing down previous "knowledge" and reframing reality. Psychology and sociology was beginning to hypothesize and in some cases make attempts to design ways to test them. More people were being allowed representation in government, easing in the changes to who government tended to serve...or at least, to whom it made promises. I can't put a finger on what, exactly, post-modernism is, or when it "became," and I'm not sure it's necessarily a proper target. It's looking to me like Critical Theory is the root of most of the mischief you thinking and talking about. That's where the whole mess about power, privileges, and oppression comes from. Foundational to Critical Theory is the idea the proper place of philosophy was advocacy: to attack the power structures with philosophical criticism in order to bring about social changes that would more justly distribute--or even eliminate--power rather than wealth. As near as I can currently tell, Critical Theory and all of its "begets" are what got us toward where we are today on campuses.

 

I'm not saying it isn't that "the Russians did it." I'm just saying that once philosophy stepped turned toward criticism of The West and her Institutions it was probably inevitable.


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It sorta fits here...

 

From what I've been reading and studying, it's been an odd sort of evolution. If I understand correctly, Marx was coming at his ideas from a perspective of the eventual, inevitable revolution that was eventually going to stem from the grossly unequal distribution of wealth.



Given human history, I would not disagree.  However, given that we've thrown down kings, nobility, emporers and other such filth, I'm going to assert that marx's ideas are deadly bunk since the late 1800's, if not further back.

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Burke’s Connections, a tv series documentary free streams at Virtual Library Card. Not a boomer, but college between children and tours of duty, for me, came during those years. I have always cringed at a positive comment about Marx, a see through wall goes up, and the person speaking joins my to-be-wary-of list. I tend to avoid them rather than engage because I fail to understand their perspective, professor, student, acquaintance, even relative by marriage, didn’t matter. All I have is: Marx was wrong about how much men will endure for their families. What I read of Marx was required. I certainly didn’t sign up for a class in Marxism. I am still upset at my Victorian Literature professor who put a question about him on our exam that enabled the student next to me to get an A, not because she had read any of the ponderous books, but because she had just finished a semester studying Marx and had enough from listening in class to write an essay. I read every word of the stack of novels assigned, attended every lecture, and got a B+. I hate him and her...lol.
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Re:What seems to be happening

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Connections was an awesome show and a better book.


This fellow has been piecing together things in a different way...


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Re:What seems to be happening

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Connections was an awesome show and a better book.


This fellow has been piecing together things in a different way...


I'll check out Connections...


"This fellow" seems to be stringing things together about like I am, though not quite... I started looking into "post-modernism," trying to figure out what it was. I wound up all tangled up in the various "____ studies" type crap, and eventually to "Critical Theory." Problem is, if you start in the 20th century, you haven't enough background to even make sense of post-Enlightenment philosophy. From a non-clasical background of the "post-modern" age, I wasn't remotely well enough grounded in the historical evolution of Western Civ to even figure out what the Hell they were going on about in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I had to go back to freaking Socrates and beyond. I've done lecture series like Intro to philosophy, intro to political philosophy, intro to western theology... if you grab a bit of grounding in the classical pre-Christian civilization, and then follow it as it evolved toward the Enlightenment and beyond to modern "disciplines" of Critical Theory...it really does seem like where we are today was an inevitable path from which only tyranny and possibly revolution against it is the conclusion.

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Who Killed Homer was an excellent read that explained much of what happened on college campuses that lowered standards. As a recruiter, my husband was astonished to have a so called college graduate fail the test for enlistment. He was aware that technical manuals in the military had gone from 12th to 10th and fought to keep the revisions from going to 8th grade reading levels. Below that the vocabulary is useless. He was yanked from recruiting, back to an active squadron because of his critical MOS, military occupational specialty. He trained pilots to fly jets and helicopters using computer run flight simulators in the early years. In the active squadron he was a blessing to the company reps who were unable to communicate effectively with those pilots and maintenance people using their machines. Jargon was no problem for him.
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"This fellow" seems to be stringing things together about like I am, though not quite... I started looking into "post-modernism," trying to figure out what it was. I wound up all tangled up in the various "____ studies" type crap, and eventually to "Critical Theory." Problem is, if you start in the 20th century, you haven't enough background to even make sense of post-Enlightenment philosophy. From a non-clasical background of the "post-modern" age, I wasn't remotely well enough grounded in the historical evolution of Western Civ to even figure out what the Hell they were going on about in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I had to go back to freaking Socrates and beyond. I've done lecture series like Intro to philosophy, intro to political philosophy, intro to western theology... if you grab a bit of grounding in the classical pre-Christian civilization, and then follow it as it evolved toward the Enlightenment and beyond to modern "disciplines" of Critical Theory...it really does seem like where we are today was an inevitable path from which only tyranny and possibly revolution against it is the conclusion.



Connections shaped how I perceived the world though I'm bright enough to know my understanding barely scratches the surface.  Happily, division of labor applies here.  Never really appreciated that concept, either, until my later years.


James Burke, Jordan Peterson, Hayek, Friedman, Pinker... good, god the brainpower I have access to these days.  All of them have been trying to figure out what's going on, all of them identifing pieces and patterns.  I feel like that story of the three blind men discribing an elephant... each one accurate and each one wrong.  Only this elephant is far larger, far more complicated.


"This fellow", blackpigeonspeaks, is one of many youtube minds that raise questions, offer observations and speculation... none of which would make it through the filters of modern education or media.


In this video, Black pigeon takes on something that has wandered around the back of my mind for quite some time;  women.



I watched this and protective instincts raged yet... rational mind kept sayin', 'he's not wrong'.  Rational mind also says, 'he mispelled civilization', so... there's that.  Is he wrong here?  

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Re:What seems to be happening

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Women are drawn to the male in any group that is the most genetically diverse from them. Not a bad thing for species survival. Survival of the fittest, the bad boys have better instincts for it. Also not a bad thing that women are attracted to scoundrels. World peace is not necessarily a male goal, but it is a females goal in order to protect her children. Species survival, only race is the human race. Once a woman bears a child with a man, she is biologically inclined to seek another man to father her next child. Again, not a bad thing for survival of the species. It was complicated for a Navy friend of mine with six children each with a different father, but she was a Seattle flower child and happy. Once the children were older, she became more defensive. Embracing diversity strengthens a country. No way women of Islam embrace the sameness. That’s a guy thing: when there are so many to choose from, he pays for the same prostitute. Black pidgin is wrong. Set your mind at ease.
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Is he wrong?  Because everything you just said is pretty much what he said, too.
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Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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That’s twisted.  It reminds me of what happened in Sudan:  a small group of Arabs took over the politics and to stay in power committed genocide.  The country divided north and south to stop the bloodshed but it only allowed the minority to gather more power and forces to eliminate their opposition.


Women, despite their inclinations, are not going to let this country become Islamic.  Men might look favorably on Islam, as they do Christians and Mormons but no religion except perhaps Buddhism, looks favorably on women.  To accuse women of undermining the country when they have only had the vote for such a short time, are such a small nunber of elected officials, and rarely enjoy the fortunes or power of men is ridiculous.  Making the victim, the criminal is a thing:  Police will ask if your door was locked when there’s a robbery.


I wonder if more women are leaving the church than men.  The age of reason may be upon us.

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08 March 2018 | by Christopher Lamb in Rome Women leaving Church 'in droves' warns McAleese =========== Sounds promising.... thttps://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2016/03/world.png Women are more religious than men, globally. ===== Figures, women suffer more.
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Women and men....Please allow me to be "Full of Shit" for a moment. 

 

Human females have, built right into their biology, a ritual coming of age. "The talk" is simply part and parcel with a physical transformation from dependent child to adolescent woman. There is a natural inherent change that signals to society that it’s time to set aside the protected status childhood and begin the transition toward the responsibilities of grown-up. Girls “come of age,” even in the modern world, by necessity. Who they are changes, no matter how well they’re parented, because what they are changes.

 

In the past, at least, human males were afforded a similar change of state by way of cultural constructs: ritual comings of age. Boys were taken from their childhoods by the men of their community and basically forced to endure a ritual destruction of their nurtured natures--forced to gaze, horrified, at what it is to take responsibility for the culture that had previously kept them sheltered. Boys are no longer forced to become men. More importantly, boys are no longer culturally taught how to be men.

 

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys? To the extent that’s true, it because we no longer have a cultural method by which we force them to cast aside toys and teach them instead to explore and rejoice in the pleasures and hazards of carrying the old world into the new.

 

Girls are forced by nature, and supported in the effort by society, to come of age. Boys must be forced AND supported by society alone.


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I agree with that.


What's more, the energy of boys must be constrained and directed.  To use a terrible cliche', boys must be conditioned and taught to be 'sheep dogs'.  If they're not, they will become either sheep or they will become wolves.


Formal manners in the tone of, 'a gentleman does not' or 'a gentleman does this', was important and never should have been derided and disgarded as it was from the 60's onward.  We can thank the marxist professors and thirdwave feminists for that bit of suicidal thinking seeping into our cultural norms.


Okay, so maybe men without backbones are what women want?  Yeah, no.  The fastest selling book of all time was 50 shades of grey.  The most popular literary charecters in books and movies popular with women are vampires, CEO's, rockstars and 'manly men'.  3rd wave feminsts and postmodern, neomarxist women are fanatical supporters of the immigration of muslim men... men who have backbones and treat all women as submissive inferiors.


This wouldn't be the first time in the history of humanity that it has been observed women say they want one thing but their actions say they want another. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4wa3yCC8Bs

 

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