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Date Posted：05/26/2010 4:01 PMCopy HTML AMERICA'S NATIONAL DEBT
TOPS $13,000,000,000,000; DEBT PER TAXPAYER - $117,975; US DEBT TO GDP RATIO - 90.3% None of that includes unfunded liabilities, promises the federal government has made, in the form of social security, medicare and obamacare... among others, I'm sure. Last figure I saw which included those was months ago; -$107,000,000,000,000. Come to the Dark Side.
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There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/04/2010 10:36 PMCopy HTML And still no world wide depression. But a nice try by the Republicans. You guys almost had us there. Just think how much debt we would be in if the Republicans fools (I know that is redundant) were in power and they tried to balance the budget. We would be in another one of their Great Depression. Tax revenues would have dropped even more. Who knows how large the deficit would be now. |
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/04/2010 10:45 PMCopy HTML Reply to nofencesfacing (06/04/2010 3:36 PM) And still no world wide depression. But a nice try by the Republicans. You guys almost had us there. Just think how much debt we would be in if the Republicans fools (I know that is redundant) were in power and they tried to balance the budget. We would be in another one of their Great Depression. Tax revenues would have dropped even more. Who knows how large the deficit would be now. Plus the out of work numbers would be through the roof. At least under Obama, private sector jobs have been in the positive side for many months now. Under Bush, we were losing jobs at a frightening rate. We've all known people like Trump...and Trumpie - that creep you can never trust because they are always looking for an angle, a way to cheat people out of their money. A way to reneg on a contract, to not pay in full......they are con artists.
Trump does this kind of thing because he believes that because he's very wealthy, the rules of decency do not apply to him and of course, he can threaten to sue anyone. When poor people act like Trump - well they do it because they are scammers. They have no ethics in business or in life.
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/04/2010 10:58 PMCopy HTML I don't suppose #'s 61 and 62 would care to proffer solid proof of their 'findings'?
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/04/2010 11:43 PMCopy HTML
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 12:45 PMCopy HTML Reply to nofencesfacing (06/04/2010 6:43 PM)
And this has been gone over ad nauseum with you, and you are yet to offer solid proof of your position. That it is your position, if you will forgive me, is not proof. Try to remember the kind of September
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 1:02 PMCopy HTML skrunpie I understand your point. You cannot come up with another reason other than the outrages spending of WWII ended the Great Depression so it is better to attack me. |
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 1:04 PMCopy HTML Reply to nofencesfacing (06/05/2010 8:02 AM) skrunpie I understand your point. You cannot come up with another reason other than the outrages spending of WWII ended the Great Depression so it is better to attack me. I am not "attacking" you. I asked you a question. I asked you for proof of your position, and opined that this subject has been gone over endlessly, and no matter what other scenario's are provided you, you cling to this explanation. So I am simply asking you to provide something concrete, for once, to support it. Try to remember the kind of September
when men weren't girls
and girls weren't fellas..................
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 1:12 PMCopy HTML skrumpie Once you go back and change history then we can discuss that the above facts are not true. |
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 6:06 PMCopy HTML Hoover increased taxes and he increased spending. He also did a lot of other keynesian bullshit that fdr continued and expanded which turned the recession into the Great Depression.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/GreatDepression.html Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 6:07 PMCopy HTML Reply to alaskaone (06/05/2010 1:06 PM) You have the patience of a saint.Hoover increased taxes and he increased spending. He also did a lot of other keynesian bullshit that fdr continued and expanded which turned the recession into the Great Depression. http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/GreatDepression.html Try to remember the kind of September
when men weren't girls
and girls weren't fellas..................
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 6:08 PMCopy HTML And the keynsian debt for today has gone up to $13,044,510,000,000.00
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 6:11 PMCopy HTML Patience? No. I just no longer fucking care. This country needs to hit rock bottom, the whole fucking mess needs to collapse into disaster. It's the only thing that might... just might... rid us of these keynsian assholes.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 6:16 PMCopy HTML Reply to alaskaone (06/05/2010 1:11 PM) Patience? No. I just no longer fucking care. This country needs to hit rock bottom, the whole fucking mess needs to collapse into disaster. It's the only thing that might... just might... rid us of these keynsian assholes. Now you've gone and done it. Get ready for a slew of posts on how you want America to fail, and how you want it to fail because you're a racist, LOL. By the way, I agree that we need to hit rock bottom. It became clear to me quite awhile ago that disaster of some sort is the only way a huge segment of the population is going to wake up. Try to remember the kind of September
when men weren't girls
and girls weren't fellas..................
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 7:01 PMCopy HTML Reply to alaskaone (06/05/2010 11:11 AM) Patience? No. I just no longer fucking care. This country needs to hit rock bottom, the whole fucking mess needs to collapse into disaster. It's the only thing that might... just might... rid us of these keynsian assholes. You see this, April? These are the ones who call themselves "patriots" and belong to tea parties. They are quite simply the most Un-American, selfish and amoral folks around. To wish disaster on Americans, all because of the foolish anarchist dogma that exists only between your ears, is just about as low as a citizen can go. We've all known people like Trump...and Trumpie - that creep you can never trust because they are always looking for an angle, a way to cheat people out of their money. A way to reneg on a contract, to not pay in full......they are con artists.
Trump does this kind of thing because he believes that because he's very wealthy, the rules of decency do not apply to him and of course, he can threaten to sue anyone. When poor people act like Trump - well they do it because they are scammers. They have no ethics in business or in life.
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 7:19 PMCopy HTML - $13,044,702,000,000
Yup, that's me... selfish. No doubt that when everything does finally collapse under the weight of keynsian idiocy, I'll be blamed for that, too. That's fine just so long as the keynsian lunatics are gone... proven to be the dumbfucks we've been saying they are for all these years. In the time it's taken me to write this, you keynsian bastards have spent over 14 million dollars of money you do not have, money you expect your children and grandchildren to repay. Yup, I'm the selfish one. I'm the greedy one. - $13,044,716,000,000 Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 7:24 PMCopy HTML How many people in your family, Yaz? 2?
2 people; $236,558.00 That's your share. Pay up. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 7:34 PMCopy HTML SPAM.
We've all known people like Trump...and Trumpie - that creep you can never trust because they are always looking for an angle, a way to cheat people out of their money. A way to reneg on a contract, to not pay in full......they are con artists.
Trump does this kind of thing because he believes that because he's very wealthy, the rules of decency do not apply to him and of course, he can threaten to sue anyone. When poor people act like Trump - well they do it because they are scammers. They have no ethics in business or in life.
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 7:36 PMCopy HTML No, they don't take spam... you have to use money. Or do you agree it's okay to pass your debts down to children?
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 7:52 PMCopy HTML BTW, your portion of the national debt will buy 67,790 cans of spam...@ $3.49ea. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 8:00 PMCopy HTML ROTFLMAO@#74. I told you someone would be along shortly with their spew. I figured everybody would figure out who would be first in line, LOL.
Try to remember the kind of September
when men weren't girls
and girls weren't fellas..................
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 8:02 PMCopy HTML Alaskaone, I do declare, I don't believe our Progressive anti-constitution Socialists want to hear how they are stealing from their (and everybody else's) children and grandchildren.
Ain't it a gas the lack of self insight, and the continuous misuse of the term 'selfish'? Try to remember the kind of September
when men weren't girls
and girls weren't fellas..................
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 8:03 PMCopy HTML $13,000,000,000,000.00. Thought you oughta know.
Good God. My wife is trying to reconcile her checkbook again. For the last time Becky, learn where the damned decimal point goes. |
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/05/2010 9:31 PMCopy HTML Reply to skrumpie (06/05/2010 3:00 PM) ROTFLMAO@#74. I told you someone would be along shortly with their spew. I figured everybody would figure out who would be first in line, LOL. LOLOLOL, like fish in a barrel. LOLOLOL Leftie men are always so thin-skinned. They probably have small hands, as well.
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 4:30 PMCopy HTML Won't any of the keynesian true believers answer the question? What sort of ethics, morality or even compassion allows you to enslave children and people not even born yet via inter-generational debt?
Would you do such a thing to your own children? Run up your credit cards, mortgage your house and leave all the bills for your cocaine habit to them to pay off? And the word of the moment is -$13,048,566,000,000 Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 4:42 PMCopy HTML This could be a classic example of the inability to defend the indefensible.
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 4:50 PMCopy HTML They defend keynes all the time. Intergenerational debt is a fundamental principle of keynes's crackpot theories... if they believe keynes's theories then they believe in intergenerational debt, don't they? I'm just so curious as to how they justify to themselves what they are participating in.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 5:03 PMCopy HTML May I be the first to say good luck with getting an answer from them.
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 5:41 PMCopy HTML alaskaone Won't any of the keynesian true believers answer the question? What sort of ethics, morality or even compassion allows you to enslave children and people not even born yet via inter-generational debt? You tell them to stop electing fools like And seeing that with Keynesian economics the boom times last longer then we should be running a huge surplus by now. The talk of a national debt should be obsolete. Do not attack the plan when you only use step one of the plan. |
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 5:43 PMCopy HTML Reply to nofencesfacing (06/06/2010 12:41 PM) alaskaone Won't any of the keynesian true believers answer the question? What sort of ethics, morality or even compassion allows you to enslave children and people not even born yet via inter-generational debt? You tell them to stop electing fools like And seeing that with Keynesian economics the boom times last longer then we should be running a huge surplus by now. The talk of a national debt should be obsolete. Do not attack the plan when you only use step one of the plain. So the actual ethical, moral and compassion angle of the question remains unanswered. Try to remember the kind of September
when men weren't girls
and girls weren't fellas..................
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Re：-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast Date Posted：06/06/2010 5:59 PMCopy HTML Reply to nofencesfacing (06/06/2010 8:41 AM) alaskaone Won't any of the keynesian true believers answer the question? What sort of ethics, morality or even compassion allows you to enslave children and people not even born yet via inter-generational debt? You tell them to stop electing fools like And seeing that with Keynesian economics the boom times last longer then we should be running a huge surplus by now. The talk of a national debt should be obsolete. Do not attack the plan when you only use step one of the plan. Reagan, Bush 1 & 2 also followed keynesian dogma, I have not forgotten that... I have also not forgotten that it is congress who spends money, not presidents. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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