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alaskaone
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AMERICA'S NATIONAL DEBT
TOPS $13,000,000,000,000;
DEBT PER TAXPAYER - $117,975;
US DEBT TO GDP RATIO - 90.3%


None of that includes unfunded liabilities, promises the federal government has made, in the form of social security, medicare and obamacare... among others, I'm sure.  Last figure I saw which included those was months ago; -$107,000,000,000,000.
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Re:-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast

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The federal reserve sets interest rates, not ss.


SS is responsible for the misinformation that has cursed the nation since its fraudulent inception.  As a direct result of the existance of SS, people stopped saving and planning for their retirement.


It is, I suggest, one of the most obscene things done to us by the federal government.

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Re:-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast

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Obscene is how some few ignore the widespread ss benefits, the solutions of identified flaws, and the realities of age, savings interest rates, and market investment dividends for those struggling to prepare a future even with social security. Supplement health insurance and retirement funds drain whatever scaredy-cats have. What good has that done them or the country? Stop spending or raise taxes; it’s so simple obfuscating Congress must chuckle every time a taxpayer tells them, as if they didn’t know. Tax cuts for the rich who support campaigns for Congress......such a mystery......... Can’t imagine how ending social security does anything more than release more money for the rich folks pushing it who are threatened with having to pay their fair share like the rest of us who work for incomes instead of collecting dividend incomes.
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Re:-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast

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You might consider listening to someone who knows:


https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/videos/297114260961710?sfns=mo



Republican Presidential Administrations pretending to be conservative, have dramatically increased our debt through tax cuts for the wealthy, then blame liberal programs to side step responsibility.

What goes around, comes around.
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Re:-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast

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Obscene is how some few ignore the widespread ss benefits, the solutions of identified flaws, and the realities of age, savings interest rates, and market investment dividends for those struggling to prepare a future even with social security.

I'm not 'ignoring the widespread ss benefits'.  I am saying the program is immoral and has caused the elderly to be parasites upon the young, cause entire generations to fail to plan for their own futures and eventually caused the majority of this population to stop saving money at all.


What I am not saying is, 'this is your fault, Nickel.  What I am not saying is, "you knew what it was all along'.  What I am not saying is there should be no 'safety net' whatsoever.  What I am not saying is no form of federal pension system is viable.


I am saying that SS was deliberately disigned not to keep 'grandma out of the gutter' but as a trogan horse in which to impose direct withholding of taxes by the nations employers.  FDR did not give one flying fuck about old people.  He did not give one flying fuck whether or not his vicious program was moral, ethical or even viable.  All he cared about was slipping direct withholding of taxes into law.  That was his one and only purpose.  He said as much.


Supplement health insurance and retirement funds drain whatever scaredy-cats have. 

I'm not following you here.


What good has that done them or the country? Stop spending or raise taxes; it’s so simple obfuscating Congress must chuckle every time a taxpayer tells them, as if they didn’t know.

Yes.  SS/Medicare and other welfare programs consume the bulk of federal spending.  You see the problem.


Tax cuts for the rich who support campaigns for Congress......such a mystery.........

Since only the upper middle class and wealthy pay federal income taxes, it's no mystery that any reduction in taxation will effect them rather than those who do not pay taxes.at all or actually receive money from the federal government.


Can’t imagine how ending social security does anything more than release more money for the rich folks pushing it who are threatened with having to pay their fair share like the rest of us who work for incomes instead of collecting dividend incomes.

Good lord.  Nobody owes you shit.  Nobody owes me shit.


I've told you that before, albiet less forthrightly.  I've provided you in the past with the United States Supreme Court ruling that said, outright, money that was taken from you allegedly for SS was, in fact, taxes and as taxes went directly into the general fund and were spent.  I provided you, in the past, the United States Supreme Court ruling that said, outright, there is no contractual obligation on the part of the US fucking federal government to pay you shit.


Taxes and welfare.  That's what SS is.  It's a shit program based on a shit lie that has resulted in a massive shitstorm that is still growing.


But because I observe and describe the reality of this shit program, you infer that I think the alleged purpose of the shit program is unworthy?  How in the fuck do you arrive at that conclusion?  Why in the fuck are you so eager to arrive at that conclusion?


SS needs to be shitcanned.  There is no reasonable, sane person who can deny that.  You cannot force the elderly into the position of having to eat their own children.  It is not necessary, it is not moral and it is not ethical.  It is not necessary to design a system like that and only the most vile, evil fucked up sonovabitch would do such a thing to an entire country. 


Yet your hero, fdr, did it.  Fuck him.  Turn the ground he's buried in into a septic pond.


No.  SS needs to be replaced with something viable, something that has property rights, something that does not take money directly out of the wages of young people to line the pockets of old people.


Singapore did it.  So can we.



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Re:-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast

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Re:-$124 trillion in debt/liabilities and growing fast

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A trillion here, a trillion there, before you know it you talking some real money.
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