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Date Posted：08/13/2019 2:58 PMCopy HTML In the wake of the government’s shelving of the extradition bill, which would have allowed criminal suspects to be sent back to the mainland, protesters have been trying to broadcast their demands to an international audience. The five demands of the movement include the bill’s full withdrawal and an independent investigation into police’s use of force at demonstrations, as well as genuine universal suffrage. ....... But despite the days of disruption, some locals were still supportive of the protesters. "It touched me to see Hong Kong like this, I'm not angry," a 31-year-old passenger, who asked not to be identified, told CNN. "I still support them." https://apple.news/AcUWpVArPRnai4WzTsApyfA from Wikipedia ObjectivesProtestors initially demanded only the withdrawal of the extradition bill. Following an escalation in police tactical response against demonstrators on 12 June and the bill's suspension on 15 June, the objective of the protestors has been to achieve these five demands:[50]
....... In the news articles today it was difficult to find out why they were protesting. The focus was so steadfastly about the inconvenience of passengers and the economic effects on business. Once I learned the Airport was safer for them, given police actions elsewhere, and the anticipated effects of the extradition bill, I was more sympathetic to their cause. As a traveler stranded at an airport before, I agree with the passengers whose flights were cancelled, but I’ve never experienced police brutality except as reported by the media......still have an Officer Mike mindset from my childhood, knowing that’s not all there is to them under orders. Speculation about how these news stories will flow is mixed with surprise that Hong Kong has citizens interested in becoming one of our States and because of their strong affinity with us they meet certain requirements. Not that Congress is required to act or would, given the repercussions, but it is an interesting consideration. What goes around, comes around.
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：08/14/2019 3:07 AMCopy HTML What started as peaceful rallies against a single proposed law have snowballed into a wider pro-democracy movement, with some even demanding full autonomy from Beijing and occasional outbreaks of violence.
...Hong Kong's government is "increasingly only operating on direct instruction or consultation with Beijing," and acting more like a mainland Chinese regional government since Lam's push to enact a law allowing extraditions to the mainland — the original impetus for the protests.
Many Hong Kongers reject such coordination on the basis of the "one country, two systems" principle that was promised to the city after the handover from the British. That concept was proposed when the former British colony was reunited with the mainland, and guarantees that the city would maintain a separate economic and legal system.
In essence, the ongoing movement is a fight to protect Hong Kongers' "political identity" as much as it is specifically focused on furthering democracy in the city, Bland said, explaining that it constitutes a demand for self governance and a fairer economy.
https://apple.news/Ayud-pQsdTpm5KbrYaGRrug
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Inevitable?
When the vote is cast, it’s too late to find out the candidate’s agenda. Protests are such a tough way to go.
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：08/14/2019 7:05 AMCopy HTML In a totalitarian system, protests are the only way to get the party's attention. Sans free press and the ability to speak freely, people are left with no other option. The communists and other authoritarians have never understood that. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：08/14/2019 6:04 PMCopy HTML Americans have seen too many such struggles end badly in recent years to invest much emotional energy or inspiration this time around. Whether it’s been a movement in which protesters were repressed by an authoritarian regime, like the 2009 Green Revolution in Iran, or a movement where the protesters ostensibly got what they wanted, like in Egypt’s Arab Spring, but things turned out badly anyway, maybe Americans are wary of another uprising gone wrong. More likely, our apathy over Hong Kong stems from something worse than fatigue, cynicism, or even our own domestic fights. Maybe it’s because many of us don’t really believe in the great promise of America anymore. We don’t really believe we are the last, best hope for liberty on the earth, and we don’t really hate and fear totalitarianism or tyranny as we should because we’ve convinced ourselves that our system is no better than those enforced from Beijing or Moscow. After all, if America is a white supremacist country with a racist president, if we can’t deliver universal health care and free college, if we can’t stop mass shootings and rising drug addiction and suicide rates, then who are we to judge? Confidence in our institutions has been eroding for decades, and now we’re beginning to see signs that young Americans’ confidence in the government and the basic trustworthiness of their fellow citizens is in serious decline. This isolation and wariness is connected to our apathy, which isn’t just poisonous to our American experiment, it’s dangerous—and not only for us. The protesters in Hong Kong clearly still believe in the promise of America. The question is, do we? John is a senior correspondent for The Federalist. Follow him on Twitter. ............. This is the way I feel about it. My confidence in the way we handle foreign fights for independence has been shaky since promises to Hungary in the 1950’s gave them false hope to act and left them crushed. Sure, changes in government since have allowed a certain amount of hope that we’ve learned enough from mistakes, critical errors, poor intelligence, poor judgment to know what we’re doing now, but I’m uncertain that Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court aren’t simply blank slates waiting for someone else to write on them, clueless. I ache when I think of what Sudan went through, hoping, while a minority took over and committed genocide to stay in power, driving people off their farms and poisoning the land so they’d have nothing if they returned. They were like us, and they lost their country. The mighty “THEY” are coming for us, too. Hope someone is figuring out where and when to put a stake in the ground.... The great thing about America is that it doesn’t matter what ethnic origin or country of the world you or your ancestors come from, you are an American. In any other country it doesn’t matter how many years you’re a citizen paying taxes, you will never be Korean, German, Chinese, French, Greek, etc., but here.....boom! you’re an American |
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：08/20/2019 8:13 PMCopy HTML Perhaps it is as simple as, 'there's nothing we can do to help them'. Unka sam dearly loves to invade nations that cannot defend themselves to any meaningful degree. Wading into Chinese affairs, yeah, nah. While we would ultimately prevail in a shooting war, it would cost us far more than Iraq/Afghanistan. Come to the Dark Side.
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The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian
There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：08/25/2019 2:16 AMCopy HTML It would simply be easier to buy us, like Japan almost did with Hawaii during its economic heyday.
China, short on money, could simply move in, like it did in Tibet, dominate the politics with numbers of well paid people in good positions, but they seem to prefer giving their military something to do a shorten the timeframe.
There’s plenty we can and should do when people like us are being slaughtered or dominated one country at a time by Islam and Communism....I suppose we can wait for them to clash and deal with the survivors.
Sudan would have been easy, at the beginning, but replacing the efficiency of special forces with UN soldiers to save money was a critical error and cost them their country, now in the control of an Arab minority.
An Arab minority took Egypt and though Anwar Sadat made great strides in returning the country to Egyptians, all that was reversed with his assasination and ethnic cleansing of Copts, so it’s back to being the Arab Republic of Egypt.
increases in our Arab population are interesting because they generally have better jobs than the average American and that kind of minority has proven successful.
Someone, somewhere is probably keeping an eye on it. No worries.....
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：08/30/2019 1:54 PMCopy HTML As Hong Kong gears up for its 13th straight weekend of mass protests, some of its highest profile pro-democracy leaders are in jail. Joshua Wong, who led massive protests in 2014, and activist Agnes Chow were among those arrested this morning in Hong Kong. Anti-government activist Andy Chan was arrested last night at Hong Kong's airport. They were charged with offenses, including organizing an unauthorized assembly, obstructing police and suspicion of rioting. The arrests could inflame already heightened tensions before this next planned round of demonstrations. Protesters have been calling for full withdrawal of an extradition bill, an independent inquiry into police brutality and universal voting rights in Hong Kong .......... What’s wrong with this protest? In my not worth a nickel opinion: nothing. Something is wrong with their government and China’s balling act...... What goes around, comes around.
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Re：Hong Kong Protestors Shut Down Airport Date Posted：09/07/2019 8:22 PMCopy HTML As I watch the fearless Hong Kong protesters risk life and limb, standing up to the Chinese juggernaut to protect freedom, I can’t help but wistfully wish we’re witnessing the beginning of a spreading popular movement. In my heart of hearts, it’s my fondest hope that these courageous, freedom-loving protesters succeed and that their message of hope catches fire in other countries in desperate need of the Hong Kong formula.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/06/americans-wanted-freedom-much-hong-kongers/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=1fd8b5cbf4-RSS_The_Federalist_Daily_Updates_w_Transom&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-1fd8b5cbf4-84045335
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Why does this seem so twisted?
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